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Blast109
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posted 08-12- 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blast109   Click Here to Email Blast109     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some time ago there was a discussion about useing different skins on the same aircraft type in the same mission and i seem to remember that for some reason this could not be done, well i was clearing out some old files the other day like you do and i came across the SDOE island demo with the Fokker Dr1a triplanes, one side was red the other blue, so is there away to do this in OpenPlane or was that a one off? because for us WW1 flying circus chappies this would be a bit of a turn on to say the least.

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Nat
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posted 08-12- 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are 2 ways of doing this: (so yes, it can be done, and pretty easily)

1: The aircraft is given a different designation and doubled in SDOE (Meaning 2 identical aircraft but setup as 2 different aircraft) allowing for a different skin for each one.

2: Via loadout. I think my good friend will elaborate more on this one

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Vahnatai
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posted 08-12- 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know the mission ur talking about...the reason its like that is cause those are 2 seperate planes

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-12- 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The catch with #1 is file size (visions of 'fat pigs' running through my head ) and the catch with #2 is for planes with multiple loadouts, like bombers - start multiplying those permutations and it can be dizzying.

It can be done, but I doubt many people would take advantage of it because of the file renaming that would be required any time you download a paintscheme. If you had a theatre and role-specific plane however (like the PZL for instance) this might be more practical than on, say, a Ju88 that saw action everywhere and carried several different loadouts.

Werner

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Psi
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posted 08-12- 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Werner with all due respect I disagree with the complications you list on option #1. I really don't see this as being any different than having a "G" and "F" B-17 or 4/5 Beaufighters, and there again we also have 4 F4u's. I'm not complaining about how many planes we have and you especially have to know that there were as many variants of any given aircraft as the war required. I myself would love to fly a squad of maybe 2 or 3 different squads. Think of the diverse yet collective beauty in this concept.

To be different than the rest is to be

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Nat
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posted 08-13- 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I didn't go into the problems, but there are very basic problems to start with:

1: Number of aircraft, currently if you have more than about 100 aircraft Mission Ed corrupts, and we're pretty close to 100, and if you have beta aircraft ect, then you can be well over, adding extra skin support will at least double this number, we can't support it.

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-13- 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psi - I agree, we have several variants of one kind of a/c, like a Flying Fortress or a Corsair, but if you wanted to fly BoB missions for instance, having F,G and K model 109s doesn't help much if you want 109s with different squad markings, unless you duplicate. Multiply the number of a/c we have by 2, and we will be way over the limit Nat mentions immediately above. That's more what I was getting at, my apologies for not being more clear.

Werner

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Psi
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posted 08-13- 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true guys but if a person wanted to have this diversity in say offline play he could create an aircraft folder that has maybe 3 differing A/C for say a mission over London. I'm not saying this would be practical for everyone because it sounds like a drain on system resources to me, for me because of a P2 400. But there are ways around the corruption and the amount of A/C in any given folder. Realistically in a game you may only have 3 or 4 A/C as it is. We do have bigger fish to fry than this matter (mmmmm fish ) but it is possible
thanks...

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-13- 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe a tutorial on making duplicate aircraft is the answer then, if this is to be used offline?

Werner

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Blast109
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posted 08-13- 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blast109   Click Here to Email Blast109     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys for the feedback, a tutorial would be helpful, for me it's more for the WWI types and theirs not so many of them (yet) so maybe I'll do a separate install for WWI and with a tutorial (hint hint) i could make some circus skins so i could have say 3 standard Fokker DR1a's and say one Red baron or voss skin and then up the skill rate on that one, there should be space for one extra model of each plane well at the moment at any rate thanks again.

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