posted 08-12- 04:02 PM               

You guys that have Razer's new P-51B and the new P-51D FM. I need some feedback before I finsh the B FM and say whether or not the D is finally finished.

Here are the questions:

1) Can you cause either plane to start to spin?

2) Is the D less stable on your machine than the B (especially at low speeds with lots of throttle applied)

3) If you don't follow the spin recovery procedure in the pilot's instructions do you find yourself in trouble?

posted 08-12- 04:19 PM               

So here are some impressions from what i could see so far:
AI can stall and spin the plane and sometimes AI can get control back and sometimes not (that was fun watching it).

On a high air combat 20000-25000ft the mustang will be outmanouvered by the TA152 this can changed at low altitude below 8000ft.

AI blacked out now much more than before with the result that AI crashed at ground sometimes.

Rendsburger

posted 08-12- 04:51 PM               

li'l b

P.S.
What about the torque? the D takes off pretty gently, while she was famous for the big torque on takeoff since the fuselage surface was inferior to the B one...
I remember Raider workin on a better 3D model, w/ new intakes and such, where did it go?

posted 08-12- 07:26 PM               

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Originally posted by li'l bastard:

What about the torque? the D takes off pretty gently, while she was famous for the big torque on takeoff since the fuselage surface was inferior to the B one...

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Thanks li' b

A difference in the air is what you should see. I just need to make sure the difference is an appropriate amount.

On the D takeoff issue- that was mostly a fuel tank and new pilot issue. If you ram the throttle forward on the D, she should give you some problems. New pilots were prone to doing this and with a FULL fuselage tank she was a real witch. Look at the P-51D FM topic in the projects section to show how I toned down this problem on the D in a historically accurate way.

THe ground handling on the B will be better after the additional FM changes are added. The other issue with the D was solved by adding the dorsal fin to increase lateral stability. The B didn't require this because of the razorback.

Thanks for the feedback too Rendsberger, the TA-152 FM in the plane pack is way too uber, and the Ta-152H1 FM is an early beta and needs more adjusting. (The plane pack Ta-152 can outmaneuver a ZERO!) What most people don't know is the P-51D was A incredibly agile & maneuverable low altitude fighter and a fantastic high altitude boom & zoom fighter. Having her out maneuver the Ta 152 at low altitudes is good to see.

Since the Ai doesn't know about putting the ailerons in neutral and letting the nose drop, it tends to have problems when going into a spin- a number of inexperienced D pilots were lost either on takeff from too much throttle too quick or from fighting the spin and making their situation worse.

I do have to admit this is actually sounding encouraging.

posted 08-12- 08:24 PM               

The B out maneuveres the D in low alt combat.

posted 08-12- 09:22 PM            

I find that the "D" becomes unstable at speeds around EDIT130, tends to be nose heavy and wants to flop over. The "B" being much more stable at lower speeds down to about 120, but at that speed it has much of the same feel as the "D".

The "B" IMO is easier to regain control of if proper proceedures are followed.

Do not get in an orbit fight with the "D" at low alt, the energy bleeds and before you know it you're down the LOC (loss of control) speed that well have you planting daisy's...

Still testing

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