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Aladar
Pilot
posted 08-02- 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, Im Aladar and you're not. How hard is it to include a test mission for airplanes? The P-40 for instance. NO MISSIONS. You guys are going to drive people like me to cliffs. I don't want to gripe, but I am. Please include missions with your downloads. Just say no.... to laziness.

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-02- 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Early Beta"

versus

"Finished Product"

Caveat Emptor

Werner

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Diego Lozano
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posted 08-02- 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not lazy and it took me all of 2 minutes to create a mission.

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Nat
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posted 08-02- 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beta version - ergo - Beta version - ergo - incomplete, needs testing, builder looking for feedback, doesn't want loads of thoughtless comments like this or that mission CTD's, or even there are no missions included.

The problem round here is that people forget that a beta version is for testing...

~sigh~

~Nat~

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Psi
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posted 08-02- 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it took me about 30 seconds (20 of that for the ME to open), I just replaced a couple of P-51's with the P-40. I recommend 3 pounds of ice swallowed whole

P

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Hawk
General
posted 08-02- 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawk   Click Here to Email Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aladar you been eating those dino eggs again?

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Aladar
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posted 08-02- 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, Iguanadons are herbivores.

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Jeeves
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posted 08-02- 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen dino-boy....

You want missions. I got missions!!! 15 right now to be exact-- with 2 more coming when the bomb mounts are fixed. Laziness my ass!

Da Jug stated when he released it that I still had missions to finish--- and I have sent him what I have--- he said he will release it in Beta 2....

It's not like we don't have 10 other projects going on....don't worry- they will be worth the wait!

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[This message has been edited by Jeeves (edited 08-02-2001).]

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Snickers
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posted 08-02- 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW Jeeves -
Did I mention that I found a new loadout for the PBY? (New training mission needed....)

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Jeeves
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posted 08-03- 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhh...sure Snick. Just e-mail me with the details And maybe an updated model with the new weapons?

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gt
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posted 08-03- 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gt   Click Here to Email gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BETA is BETA....so no problem here if it is without training missions!

...Mhhhmm if I remember correctly your BF110 was a whole mess in the zip file (tons of folders that messed up my whole sdoe installation) AND YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT TRAINING MISSIONS?????????

Go and watch dino movies!

gt out

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 08-03- 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Step by Step guide to solving the 'no mission' bug with some planes...

1) OPEN THE MISSION EDITOR
2) SELECT NEW MISSION
3) ADD ONE PLANE OF THE ERQUIRED TYPE
4) SET WAYPOINT TO START AT AN AIRFIELD
5) SAVE MISION IN HANGAR FOLDER NAMED THE SAME AS THE DIRECTORY THE NEW PLANE IS IN

Then you start the game and go to Hangar and choose you shiny new mission and run the game.

If for any reason, you are unable to follow the above steps, remove the plane from your HD and wait for the full release.

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Jeeves
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posted 08-03- 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL gt and wtg...

you guys crack me up

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Maury Markowitz
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posted 08-03- 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maury Markowitz   Click Here to Email Maury Markowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before anyone goes too nuts over this, it WOULD be nice if you could put the training and hanger missions in the aircraft folders. As it is it's a pain in the butt to ship out the missions.

Maury

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Commando
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posted 08-03- 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Commando   Click Here to Email Commando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most missions I get at present are causing CTD's until I open them up reset the plane and save them, just as quick to make them from scratch so I say dont bother.

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Da Jug head
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posted 08-03- 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aladar,

Just kidding - typically an EARLY beta (emphasis on the early) is downloaded by people who know they'll need to do some stuff on their own. The idea is those with the moxy to help find problems grab it, knowing they can help make a better finished product, but also knowing some things are missing.

As the principle people currently working on this: me, Razer, Pachy, Jeeves, Nat & Argon have several other things people are waiting on us for, creating a "test" mission is not high on the list for an early beta.

Put another way, would you rather have the P-40 with missions, or the P-40 minus missions PLUS, the NEW P-51D FM, which will be out tomorrow or Sunday, Razer getting back an FM on a plane you guys have been waiting for for quite a while, two other FM's Snick is waiting for, and another one for Hawk?

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Sunray
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posted 08-03- 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunray   Click Here to Email Sunray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Iguanadons are what food eats?
I've always found being able to make my own missions half the fun of this game. Especially as it lets you chase Ju-88's with an F-86. Not as easy as it sounds. Try chasing a Stuka with a Corsair. Speed difference is amazing.

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ArgonV
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posted 08-03- 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LoL! I actually do make missions for all beta test aircraft... But when wakeup tailgunner and I release an aircraft, its about 95% to 99% done to begin with! Saves us the time of having to go back later and put in everything we didnt do while at the same time working on something else new when we dont have the first thing weve worked on done.

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-03- 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ArgonV:
I actually do make missions for all beta test aircraft

That's a bonus though. It's great that you do it, but it becomes too easy for some to expect those kinds of 'polish' issues to be dealt with when fundamental issues haven't been yet, when that is what you are exposed to on a regular basis.

Werner

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Loco
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posted 08-03- 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loco   Click Here to Email Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donīt care.
To me as a beta It was nice. Only spent some minutes of fun doing a great mission with P40sxBf109s over Africa.
Great Job Razer.

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