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Da Jug head
Pilot
posted 07-29- 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an early beta, a list of known work follows the pictures.



Status: Early Beta
Model
Cockpit framing needs work
Cowl Flaps need adding
Bomb racks need to be added
Cockpit interior being worked on
Lights on landing gear indicator don't work yet
Detail work

FM
Max speed is correct
Roll rate a little slow
Max climb can't be checked until bomb racks are added
"Handling characteristics" need to be worked on. Aircraft is too stable under certain conditions.

Now uploaded at simfiles

If someone will send me the Flying Tiger Skin, I'll include it in the file. I can't find it anywhere.

Go to the projects section to see a list of credits, but I'd like to thank those making the most recent changes here.
Pachy- instrument panel & gunsight
Razer- many upgrades

Now it's off to some more people for bomb racks and missions

[This message has been edited by Da Jug head (edited 08-01-2001).]

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Major Hippie
Pilot
posted 07-29- 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Major Hippie   Click Here to Email Major Hippie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why not upload it at www.simfiles.com ?

hip63

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-29- 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just so you know, if the version your testing has a blurry cockpit side wall that looks like something out of WW2 fighters thats just something I put in there cause I was bored. The new cockpit and graphics will look a lot better once I've got all the stuff in.

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Vahnatai
Pilot
posted 07-29- 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
email it to me!

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Biggles3
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posted 07-29- 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Biggles3   Click Here to Email Biggles3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SEND IT< TOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOn: ben_d7@hotmail.com

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Da Jug head
Pilot
posted 07-29- 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can now get it at www.simfiles.com

Look for the P-40F beta file

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Vahnatai
Pilot
posted 07-29- 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this plane rules!!! i LOVE the skin! one thing i did notice though is that the guns are VERY much underpowered (seem more like automatic BB guns) and they have a pretty friggin slow rate of fire!

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Jeeves
JAG
posted 07-29- 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...

The ROF values and projectile weights are correct-- but I believe the game only models a few of them at present-- meaning no matter what values you type in, there are only a few options available in the code-- something I hope the patch team can fix since I went through over 70 of the planes already getting all the values correct

I have sent Jug the updated loadout I did, but until we get those bomb racks, I can't add them yet....and this is what is holding up the missions too. I have two more Africa missions to do, then I just need to update the bombing ones when the model is done

She is sweet to fly though

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-29- 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, the pics aren't loading. Send them to me and i'll post them on the hangar..

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Gunner
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posted 07-30- 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is sweet. Flew her against some AM65's. I had the drop on them but the low damage rounds caused a hell of a fight.

I see the radiator isn't finished but she flies great!

The P-40, or as my wife refers to it as the "Tiger Tooth plane" has always been a favorite, and it's great to have it in the game.

I am really looking forward to a final version with an "AVG" skin.

P.S.
I love this place !

Gunner

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-30- 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are all glad you guys and gals are enjoying it. You think this version is great wait till you see the next version.

[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 07-30-2001).]

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Snickers
Pilot
posted 07-30- 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was a flight of P40s that escorted a flight of B25s on the first raid on Hong Kong. Now we need a B25

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-30- 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you guys testing the plane, do you want cockpit reflections or not? I can set it up where all you have to do is change the tif if you want them or not.

The cool thing about this plane being worked on is it flew again my Ki-61. Though I think it was a newer version then what we have now but no biggy.

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Sailor
Pilot
posted 07-31- 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor   Click Here to Email Sailor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very very cool plane, just had tim efor a few minutes flight but it was great ! The 3D model looks very nice, very smooth. Did you use many more polys than for the other fighters ? and I had a good fps rate as well on my slow PC (arnd 30) with one P40 over the Pacific terrain.
Noticed a couple of odd details :
- I have a double gunsight : one with a little glass and a circle, the second one that should probably be further out on the engine's cowler and that looks to be beside the first one (may be it's normal or may be it's my install).
- May be you have a single faced poly in the upper part of the tail, when flying in F2 view, looking at the plane from the left and from the right (alternatively), there's an angle slightly on the left where you kind of see thru the upper rudder.

Anyway Great plane , thanks to the whole team.
Sailor

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Jonners
Pilot
posted 07-31- 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonners   Click Here to Email Jonners     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Likewise with me,
Managed just a few minutes flying time, but what a beaut!
This is what I'm talking about when I rave about this magnificent community!
Thanks for all the time and effort, team - keep it up so us hungry little propeller heads have more to shout about

Thanks again chaps - Jonners

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wakeup tailgunner
JAG
posted 07-31- 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sailor's right about the tail. The top polygons of the rudder are non-coplanar...As a result, the shading on them is a little out too. There are a couple more disappearing polygons on the wing roots and between the wings on the underside. You have to really look for them, but they are there.

Apart from that, the plane is absolutely lovely! The gear sequence especially. If I hadn't been zoomed in in f2 mode, I wouldn't have spotted the other poly probs...Must have cycled the gear a dozen times just to watch them turn and swing back with the doors slowly cranking up. Must have taken ages to get right, but it was worth it!

She also flies a treat! Hard work to keep straight on the runway...once she starts to go, you are in trouble! She does roll quick, but I don't think it is excessive. Dogfighting zero's is still hard work!

Any chance of a sliding hood? Seing her parked up, i just felt the need to let in a bit of air....gets hot in the desert

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Da Jug head
Pilot
posted 07-31- 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm....

You guys like the way this plane flies huh? Wait 'til you get a chance in the P-51B and the new P-51D FM (the D should be ready by the end of the weekend, working on another FM first that Razer has been VERY PATIENTLY waiting for)

BTW, believe it or not the roll rate on the P-40F is incredible. The roll rate you guys are getting now is about 0.5 seconds too SLOW from the roll data.

When I get a chance to work on the Zero FM's and make the roll rate die off at high speeds, it'll make dogfighting very interesting. You'll need to keep your speed up in a P-40 and try and slow the dogfight down in a Zero

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-31- 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the good reports guys, I'm working on the vanishing polys and I plan to redo a few areas to fix the smoothing problems.

The dual gunsight is suppose to be there. Most P-40's have the normal gunsight with an iron backup sight in case the other sight went out. You can't use the other sight it's pretty much there for looks.

Argon did a great job on the gear DOFs and I hear they did take awhile to tweak.

We do plan to add the moving canopy once I get the new canopt framing in and I finish up more of the cockpit.

I think there will be a few new things in the beta 2 release.

[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 07-31-2001).]

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Dinga
Pilot
posted 07-31- 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dinga   Click Here to Email Dinga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congradulations to everyone on the Kittyhawk team for all your hard work. One can't begin to imagine how much work goes into bringing such a famous warbird to the Fighter Sqn. skies.I love the attentionto detail also ,like the way the gear retracts first one leg then the other,as of cause it does in real life, simply superb effort so far gentlemen can not wait to see the finished product.

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Razer
Pilot
posted 07-31- 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Figured there might be a few that would want this. In the next day or so I'll have a finished 1024 template for the P-40 with accurate panel lines and If I have time, rivets.

If you want thise template contact me and when I'm done i'll send over the PSD files with layers.

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Biggles3
Pilot
posted 08-01- 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Biggles3   Click Here to Email Biggles3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GUYs i love this plane and i cant wait until the next beta when we have some decent guns.
talking of 1024 this is fictional a skin i did and its looks pretty damn good i think..and body want it?
http://www.geocities.com/biggles3fc/progress.html
and there is anso a redo of the original.

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dez51
Cadet
posted 08-01- 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dez51   Click Here to Email dez51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
exellent plane p 40s are one of my favourites the guns are aimed abit below the center of the reticule

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Da Jug head
Pilot
posted 08-01- 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gorgeous skin Biggles3- I want it!

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Biggles3
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posted 08-01- 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Biggles3   Click Here to Email Biggles3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK DA JUG TAKE A MOSY ON DOWN TO MY SITE AND GRAB EM BOTH.

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Gustavo
Pilot
posted 08-02- 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustavo   Click Here to Email Gustavo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very beautiful the P-40.

¿Why does he/she have another gun sight next to the main one?

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Hawk
General
posted 08-02- 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawk   Click Here to Email Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great airplane! Another star in SDOE's sky.


Paul www.rcwarbirds.com

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Loco
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posted 08-02- 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loco   Click Here to Email Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT! GREAT! GREAT!
Congrats for the P-40 team!

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Da Jug head
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posted 08-03- 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gustavo- the P-40 had an iron sight on the nose that could be used if the primary gunsight inside the cockpit failed or was shot up.

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