posted 05-20- 09:27 AM               

Tomorrow night we will try another night of flying missions using the 1.5.2.8 Patch. Next week, who knows, maybe we will have a NEW Patch to fly with.

The setup that seems to work best is to remove your aircraft folder completely. This to eliminate the mismatches which are caused by everyone having different cockpits etc.

The only problem is that planes like the wonderful P38F, etc could then not be flown. We can do a work around on this, but before we do I need to see who would like to fly tomorrow night, and which aircraft besides those in 6.0 would you like to fly? I know Razer had mentioned the Val.

If we can come to something close to a concensus, I'm sure we can whip something up for tomorrow.

So, who of you are going to fly? Or are do you all just talk about flying?

PR=FC=

posted 05-20- 02:08 PM               

Great!

Razer

Where can I find the Val?

I have downloaded and installed PP6.1 It seems to be an easy fix to get rid of the changes and go back to PP6.0 if need be.

I'll see if I can throw a few missions together with various amounts and kinds of planes.

posted 05-20- 10:04 PM            

If you want to use pp6.1 put the new parfiles in a folder (call it pp61) in the openplane folder. It's a quick way to enable the pack or turn it off if you have problems.

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Spin

posted 05-20- 10:51 PM            

Why not just use the standard (just like fresh install) aircraft folder with no adds?

posted 05-21- 05:45 AM               

I have a few missions made for tonight.

So, to recap, here's what we will need for tonight besides the obvious of SDOE, 1.5 patch, and Nations 2.0...

1)PP6.1
2)Val
3)Patch V. 1.5.2.8

If I left anything out let me know. Otherwise I'll see all you guys tonight at 9:00 CST. I might be on a bit earlier, so watch the Patch lobbies!

PR=FC=

posted 05-21- 09:55 AM               

Since you are using pp6.1 tonight, please remember all fighters now have engine damage modeled and you will have to consider this in your tactics. Good luck and I hope all goes well. Let me know if any problems crop up.

Thanks,

posted 05-21- 11:38 AM               

Did you have the bullet penetration option on by any chance? If so, all planes will take about 60% more hits than before.

posted 05-21- 07:38 PM               

Yeah, I noticed that. Also noticed she causes a slight hit on my texture memory, but shes so sweet, I can't not have her in a couple of missions.

See you guys tonight!!!!

posted 05-21- 08:06 PM               

Thanks for pointing that out. No nothing to tell you, just my big fingers hitting the wrong key. It's 1.5.2.8 that is this week.

We will miss you tonight, but I'm certain the 1/2 speed stuff will be sorted out by next Monday and we will see you in the Monday Night Patch Flight!!!

posted 05-21- 08:38 PM            

Sv and Bryan R. are gods with lightning bolts in their eyes

posted 05-22- 06:59 AM               

The turnout for the Monday Night Patch Flight was small, only 4 of us, but the play was good. The Host still seems to suffer the most with the 1.5.2.8 version of the patch in terms of CTD, and mysterious lockups, in what I have always refered to as the 'Ready Room' (the place you launch the mission from). The good news is the CTD's appear to be all but gone for the other participants.

I'll be on next Monday with possibly a NEW version of the Patch to test. If the turnout is as spartan as the last 2 weeks however it will be my last Monday night.

As great of a game as SDOE is online in terms of stability and the numbers of fliers who can participate, it's a mystery to me more of you guys don't take part in this.

Ah well, guess I'll just add that to all the other mysteries in my life

posted 05-22- 08:56 AM            

P

Oops, put this "a" in there Cas

posted 05-22- 11:10 AM               

I was glad I could be there. It was fun although full of ctd's in the ready room.

Is there anyway we could move the war night to 1/2 hour or 1 hour earlier for next week. I stand a much better chance of making it at an earlier time.

posted 05-22- 01:02 PM               

Don't start things you don't intend to follow through and give it time to grow. I didn't make it last night but I was looking forward to actually finding someone to fly with outside of sundayafternoons and SW. Shame if you don't stick it out...why should we bother if your going to flop on it so soon.

When I finally organize my little on-line mini-war... I don't care if only two show. Fracca gets a bomber and an escort I am limited to 2 kills per msn but hey we would have fun...er right Fracca? : )

posted 05-22- 07:29 PM               

Huh?

That's my general reply to your post.

More to the point, what email? What Neon Sky? If you didn't like the color of the skies, no problem, but I am learning the combination of colors as I go along, sometimes I may pick combinations that appear to be garish to someone with your obvious fine tastes.

I may be out of touch with the SDOE community. I have only been around a few years. Maybe it's passed me by in favor of the younger talents as yourself.

I didn't say in my post I was quiting SDOE. I said if the turnout continued to be as spartan as the last few days I would discontinue my involment in the organised Monday night flying. I do have a little bit of a life outside of SDOE if thats o.k. with you.

Thanks though for taking the time to post your comments.

posted 05-22- 10:33 PM               

As far as being around a few years...so have I. My old handle was Confusion: sometimes with an LG13 or JG2 attached. I never saw you on-line until these SWs. I have seen you post for many years though. I just perfer flying to posting so you may have mistaken me for a "young" pup.

quote you if you don't mind..."If the turnout is as spartan as the last 2 weeks however it will be my last Monday night."

Yes you are out of touch with sdoe "ONLINE". You can post for years and never have a clue what is happening to the game up on the servers. You are probably the most "in" touch with this forum or maybe even SDOE as a whole. My 1st post says "sdoe online" QED on that. Four people is a good game nowadays for SDOE online. You can't see that and call it spartan and want to bail. Yes I was there for the kopper bounus (he was allways to laggy, good thing Hawk didnt) and all that. That was the past. Truth is many times no ones even on during the times you could allways find a game. Four people is a good showing for SDOE and you are lucky to have them.

I went to the trouble of getting the patch and getting the 38f and having to recreate my joystick profile everytime I switch between the patch and normal. I did this because I thought we were going to fly monday nights and get this game improved. Sure you didn't twist my arm. And for me its not that big of a deal because I thought it would be worth it. PSI went through 1/2 game hell but stuck with it...bailing because you didn't win a mr popularity contest (hehe I ant winning any I am sure attacking sdoes most upstanding citzen) Its kind of a slap in the face I would imagin to the people who strugled in 1/2 hell to get with you and help the game out. I guess if you had been one of those 1/2 speeders you would have bailed before you got most of the online guys into the patch. Hehe Moses you led us to the red sea and now your going to just quit...thats the heart of it. You were the leader of the patch movment...You probably still are...just assumed you had alot more resolve..my mistake.

"it's a mystery to me more of you guys don't take part in this." Yes you are out of touch..outside of SW very few people fly this sim much ONLINE...HELLO..4 is a great showing nowadays..but thats not good enough for you I know....sad but true. So I can hear you go..."but the SW"..is at time when both sides of the ocean can fly. You would have been better to do it sunday afternoons.

"I do have a little bit of a life outside of SDOE if thats o.k. with you." Sure thats fine heh. If you would have said you had to quit monday nights because (insert RL thing here) This post would have never happened. You are quiting because not enough people are showing up not because of outside things..if we take what you said at face value..which I do because you seem to be a very upstanding fellow. Also, you chose to spend atleast some time posting..which is your choice. Post less fly more online and you will still have the same amount of outside time..and would know how lucky you are to have 4 people to fly with.

I just noticed I repeated the thing about 4 people to much...sorry about that : )

Ah the email. Its about the sky color and was mailed on the 17th of this month. From ungluecksrabe@hotmail.com Title : The Patch.

I would think if atleast one person took the time to e-mail you about it..and also try to help. Then maybe some of that "mystery" may have been people wanted to test the patch but not on mars.

It was a private e-mail but I will cut and paste it here. Good night gentleman.

The E-mail below as orginally sent
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Dear Sir,

Hello from 9./JG2 Unglücksrabe. I am also known as Shark-26AC for SW. I admire the way you take a leadership role in the SDOE community. We are a group with very diverse ideas which in some ways hurts the sim. (I quit sdoe for a year during the great madness right before the plane contest...a new download near every night if you wanted to fly on-line) You are pushing the patch and wow your making progress in getting people to fly it. This is a good thing and you have my support!

One thing I would like to let you know in private though is my concern for the color of the sky in the patch. I do understand its new and so maybe the settings are not perfected yet, but atleast in the msns I flew the sky was LOUD and was close to being painful to the eyes to look at good amounts of time. As an artist I know exactly what is wrong.

The sky was a "pure" color not a tint. In nature you would never see a color 0,0,255 (assuming this is the format your using) In nature the sky is blue yes but not neon. If you were to "paint" a blue sky you would be mixing blue with white and or grey and or..tiny bit of orange to cut the intensity down. I do have to admit I have seen some night skys that were much purer than a daytime sky but even then the croma was not as intense as what you would get using just strait blue in an RGB monitor sceme. Try maybe 1/2,1/2,1 ratio to kill the intensity of the RGB blues for the sky. Maybe 20,20,40 etc. It will still be blue as long as the last is greater.

Thank you for your time,

Lorenz

posted 05-22- 11:17 PM               

quote:

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Originally posted by UNGLÜCKSRABE:
Four people is a good game nowadays for SDOE online. . . Four people is a good showing for SDOE and you are lucky to have them.

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Gluck, you are more out of touch with SDOE than you say PR is.

Saturday there were between 6 & 8 people on line for well over 2 hours. As some left ,others stepped in to fill their shoes. Besides, it's late spring in the northern hemisphere- online gaming for all games sees some kind of drop during this period.

In January and February there were numerous times where we had 16 people in a game. On two different occasions there were more than 16 and we had to get 2 games going.

Heck, I ran 3 newbie nights where we had 2-4 newbies and 4 or more experienced people willing to act as cannon fodder.

Now for Private Roger- don't get discouraged, you are dealing with:
1. Time of year- lot's of people get involved in outdoor activities
2. "Testing"- this word makes a lot of people hesitant about joining in.

This isn't the only place that suffers from the spring/summer phenomana. Attendance in my karate class drops by HALF or more from about may until the beginning of September, and this is the average drop in most programs during the summer.

Even if the adults aren't doing something themselves, if they have kids, they're taking them to soccer practice, little league, etc.

The testing of the patch has always had a small turn out. But that is a good thing because it's usually been people with LOTS of SDOE experience. Wait until a version of the patch is adopted as the on-line std and you'll be amazed how many people will be playing.

So take heart PR- you're doing the community a much needed service. Ignore the slams and accept a very well deserved pat on the back.

Chin up!
Tally -ho . . . . . .

posted 05-22- 11:41 PM               

O.k. I'm not sure why I didn't get Glugs email, but I assure you I didn't. I have changed it recently, but I updated my forum profile and I check to be sure it was correct. It is.

Heck, if I'm out of touch with the world of SDOE either online or offline then I can accept that. I have never claimed to be an expert on all things SDOE. I couldn't build a plane if I wanted to, I can't skin a plane worth a darn, I don't know jack about damage modelling or Flight Modelling. I can make a decent mission at times (except when they have neon colors), but not much else. If you want an expert on all around SDOE general knowledge, I'm sure that person will speak up.

All I can do is beat the drum and try to get a little excitement about new features and innovations. Thats it!

Sometimes I will succeed, other times I fail. I have learned to accept my limitations Glug, maybe you should to.

Tell ya what, come to the next Monday Patch Flight, I'll let ya shoot me down. You will know who I am, I'll be in the plane thats a little out of touch with the rest of the squad, flying against a neon sky.

Thanks guys!

PR=FC=

posted 05-23- 10:31 AM               

Do you know what kind of connection were being used by all you guys?(cable, 56kmodem, dsl). Just wondering if maybe 56k modems like mine may contribute to the ctd problem.

posted 05-23- 10:48 AM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Private Roger:
All I can do is beat the drum and try to get a little excitement about new features and innovations. Thats it!

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Well if that isn't the understatement of the year, I don't know what is.....here's the credits:

Plane Building Contest
SDOEWar
Squad wars (?)
And now-- Patch night

PR-- you have lived up to your name many times over-- you are the true voice of PR (public relations for the slower of you lot ) for this sim. I only wish I had time to join in...maybe when this damn school year gets over

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Brought to you by the campaign for a better Dauntless!

posted 05-23- 01:30 PM               

On Monday night before you got there, myself, SilverFox CTD'D about 5 times and I know it happened to PR a few times too.

I will try to make next Monday so maybe that will be a good time to test.

posted 05-23- 01:46 PM               

FYI a link i use to check activity in the California 12 patch lobby.
I haven't seen it posted since long, but i may be blind (that was one of the link on MH's page to beta lobbies): http://california12.activision.com/anet2/Fighter_Squadron_1.5.1.html

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Luny=225th=

posted 05-23- 02:29 PM            

Condor,
I do know that you and Fox were having problems. Ya know sometimes just the server acts up or your server may at times not be up to speed. I do know that when I was with my last server I got booted offline quite a few times. Since then I moved over to Qwest and to date it seems to work pretty good. See ya Monday bro...

posted 05-23- 07:48 PM            

Sorry, I was planning on being online Monday night sooner, but did not discover that I needed the 6.1 until a few hours before. That only took me and hour to download with this stink'n 56k! Anyway I am loaded and ready! BTW that's pretty cool how you can turn the 6.1 off/on at the options menu... good thinking on someones part with that nifty deal.

Could you please open new Post day before to confim the proper downloads etc?

BTW, the only CTD I got was the P51. It will not work with the latest patch.

And futher more...... Casualty should change his name to Kamakazie Kid! Oooooohhh shit.... look out another head on crash!