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Topic: Stop!
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3dp
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posted 04-26- 01:47 PM
   
In light of the statement in the "New Forum Announcement" topic about the new temporary forum at . . .
http://www.wingswithwires.com/patch/mb/ . . . can we not put this one out of its misery so to speak? I notice that people are still posting here despite the above announcement, which now means we have this one, the one at SimHQ, the temporary one above, and Nat's, all of which have their value but we need to rationalize before the plethora of sites frustrates those less enthusiastic and drives them away. What I'm suggesting is placing a topic called "IMPORTANT: Everyone Read Now!" at the top of each forum telling everyone where the new 'official' temporary forum is, and if possible, preventing any further posting here. Just a suggestion! ------------------
Be seeing you,
3dp
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Gustavo
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posted 04-26- 02:12 PM
If, I believe that the new forum should be taken as an alternative, it doesn't stop to replace this while it works.  IP: Logged |
Werner Molders
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posted 04-26- 02:15 PM
In light of what Elric has to say, I have to agree with Gustavo. Werner ------------------
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JT
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posted 04-26- 02:17 PM
Um... no offense, but as long as the FSIC is around, I am going to consider this forum to be THE Fighter Squadron main forum and meeting place. I think it's cool that you guys set up another forum, but I'm a little troubled that some people are expecting everyone to just drop this forum and accept the new one as the main meeting place. [This message has been edited by JT (edited 04-26-2001).] IP: Logged |
wakeup tailgunner
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posted 04-26- 03:01 PM
The reason people are doing this is more to do with 'lifeboats' rather than a new 'home'SV is working on building a full blown forum, and when that is ready, we really should move. This forum is no longer supported as far as the people who own and manage the webspace are concerned. Hawk has tried to sort several problems but no-one replies to his mails. It's only a matter of time before something terminal hits. When it does, it will be too late to start talking about these things.... Personally, I think SV is providing the best long term solution to a forum wecan depend on. His commitment to the game is clear, and he has the basis to launch on from. He isn't tied up with projects outside of SDOE, and he is actively working on the future of SDOE. That is the future! the other 'temporary' forums make sure we still have a way to keep things together in the meantime!!!!! ------------------
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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 04-26- 03:03 PM
The reason people are doing this is more to do with 'lifeboats' rather than a new 'home'SV is working on building a full blown forum, and when that is ready, we really should move. This forum is no longer supported as far as the people who own and manage the webspace are concerned. Hawk has tried to sort several problems but no-one replies to his mails. It's only a matter of time before something terminal hits. When it does, it will be too late to start talking about these things.... Personally, I think SV is providing the best long term solution to a forum wecan depend on. His commitment to the game is clear, and he has the basis to launch on from. He isn't tied up with projects outside of SDOE, and he is actively working on the future of SDOE. That is the future! the other 'temporary' forums make sure we still have a way to keep things together in the meantime!!!!! ------------------
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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 04-26- 03:03 PM
The reason people are doing this is more to do with 'lifeboats' rather than a new 'home'SV is working on building a full blown forum, and when that is ready, we really should move. This forum is no longer supported as far as the people who own and manage the webspace are concerned. Hawk has tried to sort several problems but no-one replies to his mails. It's only a matter of time before something terminal hits. When it does, it will be too late to start talking about these things.... Personally, I think SV is providing the best long term solution to a forum wecan depend on. His commitment to the game is clear, and he has the basis to launch on from. He isn't tied up with projects outside of SDOE, and he is actively working on the future of SDOE. That is the future! the other 'temporary' forums make sure we still have a way to keep things together in the meantime!!!!! ------------------
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3dp
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posted 04-26- 03:10 PM
I only posted the original message since this forum seems to be on its last legs (I still don't get email notifications and some can't even post here anymore) according to most of those in the know (a group I do not include myself in!). It's not a question of wanting to replace this forum, it seemed to be a question of having to!That said, if what Elric said in the recent "This forum isn't going anywhere" post, turns out to be true and this forum can get back up to snuff, no one will be happier than me! ------------------
Be seeing you,
3dp
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Nat
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posted 04-26- 03:33 PM
I fully agree with WTG as the senior members know. If this forum were to up and die and we hadn't sorted out a new home and temorary homes we could lose the community.IMO as soon as a new home is finished by someone that has enough respect by the community we should move regardless of the FSIC still working or not, I don't think it the best solution to wait until it's dead and all hell breaks lose. No offence to Elric, but his post means nothing, says nothing and does nothing. What would be meaningful was if someone from the owners of this forum posted here and told us whats going on and what their plans are, and also to be available to Hawk when there are problems and be able to fix them. We have none of that and haven't for some time, just saying that we're going to have an influx of new members after the mac port to me is a reason to get a working forum. Lets be honest, for the last couple of months the owners have treated us all like mushrooms.. kept in the dark and fed on shit (shit all infact) excuse the French. What we need more than the FSIC is stability, right now I don't see that here. IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 04-26- 03:34 PM
I fully agree with WTG as the senior members know. If this forum were to up and die and we hadn't sorted out a new home and temorary homes we could lose the community.IMO as soon as a new home is finished by someone that has enough respect by the community we should move regardless of the FSIC still working or not, I don't think it the best solution to wait until it's dead and all hell breaks lose. No offence to Elric, but his post means nothing, says nothing and does nothing. What would be meaningful was if someone from the owners of this forum posted here and told us whats going on and what their plans are, and also to be available to Hawk when there are problems and be able to fix them. We have none of that and haven't for some time, just saying that we're going to have an influx of new members after the mac port to me is a reason to get a working forum. Lets be honest, for the last couple of months the owners have treated us all like mushrooms.. kept in the dark and fed on shit (shit all infact) excuse the French. What we need more than the FSIC is stability, right now I don't see that here. IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 04-26- 03:35 PM
I fully agree with WTG as the senior members know. If this forum were to up and die and we hadn't sorted out a new home and temorary homes we could lose the community.IMO as soon as a new home is finished by someone that has enough respect by the community we should move regardless of the FSIC still working or not, I don't think it the best solution to wait until it's dead and all hell breaks lose. No offence to Elric, but his post means nothing, says nothing and does nothing. What would be meaningful was if someone from the owners of this forum posted here and told us whats going on and what their plans are, and also to be available to Hawk when there are problems and be able to fix them. We have none of that and haven't for some time, just saying that we're going to have an influx of new members after the mac port to me is a reason to get a working forum. Lets be honest, for the last couple of months the owners have treated us all like mushrooms.. kept in the dark and fed on shit (shit all infact) excuse the French. What we need more than the FSIC is stability, right now I don't see that here. IP: Logged |
Hawk
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posted 04-26- 03:41 PM
This forum is sorta like a Caddilac I once sold. It was out of warenty and used oil and the tranny slipped badly but, you know, I still seen that damn car runnin around town years after I sold it!Guys this is not a ploy or coup by "those in the know" (wish I was) this is a genuine attempt by a good guy to keep our community going if and when this one does cough it's last blast of oil stained smoke. Then again we could all move and stop back and see this sick, one legged dog, hoppin' around years from now. Let's be realistic. If it was you that could not post and had to email me everytime you wanted a message posted to do it for you; well, how would you feel. IP: Logged |
Sv
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posted 04-26- 03:47 PM
My preference is to keep the SDOE forum here- but I agree with Hawks concearn. So Wings with Wires will keep the "emegency" forum active for now. If this site goes away, feel free to jump into the Wings with Wires forum. If it turns out that this site does not come back, we will upgrade the WWW forum to make it work much more like this one.
The Wings with Wires forum would be faster and more reliable, but I think it is much better to keep the SDOE forum tied to Inertia if possible.Just make sure you all know the address of the WWW emergency forum, just in case we get stuck. It would be a shame to end this community all of a sudden and then have to wait months for everyone to settle into a new home again. If new members can not be created now, this is a big issue. I hope you can make contact with Inertia soon Hawk 
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Sv
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posted 04-26- 03:49 PM
My preference is to keep the SDOE forum here- but I agree with Hawks concearn. So Wings with Wires will keep the "emegency" forum active for now. If this site goes away, feel free to jump into the Wings with Wires forum. If it turns out that this site does not come back, we will upgrade the WWW forum to make it work much more like this one.
The Wings with Wires forum would be faster and more reliable, but I think it is much better to keep the SDOE forum tied to Inertia if possible.Just make sure you all know the address of the WWW emergency forum, just in case we get stuck. It would be a shame to end this community all of a sudden and then have to wait months for everyone to settle into a new home again. If new members can not be created now, this is a big issue. I hope you can make contact with Inertia soon Hawk
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Nat
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posted 04-26- 03:56 PM
Guys, lets be sensible now...Just look at this thread and tell me FSIC isn't screwed! Multiple posts because I guess we're all getting that "Connection timed out" message and trying to post our message again, 3 and 4 repeat posts man, this place is screwed up so I think I'll be over at WWW already. Look at it guys, we can't save it and the ones that can don't seem to want to, lets just get the hell outta here and start a new life cause this just isn't funny anymore. POst a big message at the top of each forum so everyone knows and link it to WWW forum and lets just get it over with cause I've never been one for floggin a dead horse. This has been our home, it's where I first joined, but it's just not working anymore is it, nostalgia aside I just want a place that works well and we're all there before things get even worse and we lose more members. IP: Logged |
Elric
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posted 04-26- 05:59 PM
With all due respect Nat, my post is professional guesswork.It does not mean nothing. What it means is that Ron Dimant and MacPlay have a need to keep this forum up and running to support the forth coming mac FS. This server will be here as long as MacPlay and parsoft support their product range. I don't think the management are aware of the technical problems. They probably aren't seeing DNS problems because the DNS servers are on their local circuit. I suspect this server is sitting in a rack at ritual.com and has not been maintained recently. Michael Harrison set up this linux server and he is on holiday in Ireland. My post doesn't do anything because what needs to be done is the TELEPHONE the technical contact at ritual. Now the telephone number is available via whois, else someone local on this board can ring parsoft/macplay/ritual and get some info. I don't think that the management read this board anyway. I know what I'm talking about, I develop and maintain large commercial websites for a living and I know how shit happens. Elric [This message has been edited by Elric (edited 04-26-2001).] IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 04-26- 06:19 PM
Elric, I certainly didn't meanto offend, but I guess I probably did, but look at the facts, MH diesn't even work at Inertai anymore, nor does Mighty. Hawk has tried contacting Intertia for the last few weeks with no reply. Hawks Admin password has today been removed. We have long term members unable to post. Now, maybe telephoning them miht get a response, if the line is still active since their e-mails addresses don't work, BUT obviously they know whats going on because Hawks Admin password has been removed, but he can styill post, that implies to me that someone is doing something over there, but it's obviously not for our good. IMO if they were rely that bothered we would never have had all this trouble to start with, and even then, if they realy think that releasing the Mac port sometime is going to generate traffic through here thats of interest to them, then you would think thats even more reason to ensure this board is running at 100%, but actualy the complete opposite is happening and this board is getting worse day by day.. damn gotta feel sorry for anyone getting SDOE on Mac because they don't seem to have looked at the support side for it, of which this forum would be the largest part going on past experience of how much support we were given by Parsoft/Inertia, MH did everything for us off his own back, not as company policy.How bad do things have to get before we actualy do something about it, myself I like to see problems comming and aviod them, some though like to let it hit them in the face then patch the nose up after.. Tying to call them is the only thing left, but if anyone does call them, don't forget to thank them for their constant help and service in maintaining our little community  IP: Logged |
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posted 04-26- 09:44 PM
In case something does happen, is there any way someone can get all the email addresses and notify us as to where a new forum would be located? But on the other hand I have seen websites last for what seems like forever. Parsoft still has their website up.IP: Logged |
rattlesnake
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posted 04-27- 12:44 AM
How about an email list everyone can sign up for in case of an emergency (and that is all). When ever the site goes down for good an email can be sent to anyone who signed up for it. Just a thought to keep everyone happy. I have already bookmarked the new forum - thx guys!------------------
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Snickers
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posted 04-27- 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Elric:
I don't think that the management read this board anyway.
Who is George with Inertia? Whenever I post a change to the PBY page, he (or someone else in Inertia hits the page..) Yes, they read the forum. Not every thread, but enough to know whats going on... If you have a product out there, you have to find out what people are saying about it. So yes, companies do check web forums that relate to their product). In this case, *I* know because that was part of my job at the last company I worked for...
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Sport
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posted 04-27- 11:33 AM
As a casual user here and benificary of others hard work, I can only offer this observation. That if a link to the address of "Fightersquadron.com" is not mantained, new users will who find this game in the bargain bin {I saw copies last week at a home improvement store in Chicago} may not find this community. This board is the obvious heart of the game. I don't know what can be done but the people here will find each other, the newbie's may not.IP: Logged |
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posted 04-27- 04:44 PM
Snickers how about you post a thread about the PBY and the text will be a note to Inertia! If they are watching the PBY progress they should open the thread and, suprise, a message just for them :-)IP: Logged | |
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