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Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-22- 12:37 AM I'm hoping you plane gurus out there could help me confirm a few a/c nicknames... 109E - Emil 109F - Franz (?) Fritz (?) 109G - Gustav 109K - (??) 190A3 - Butcherbird... but in German? 190A4 - Butcherbird also? 190A8 - Butcherbird also?? 190D9 - Dora 262 - Schwalbe He 162 - Salamander... but in German? Ju 88 - does it have one? P39 - Iron something or other... I can't recall P47D - Superbolt or Thunderbolt? P51 B & D - both Mustang, right? P38 F & J - both Lightning, right? I16 - Ishak (looking for Russian name)? Thanks. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Vahnatai Pilot	posted 04-22- 12:44 AM P-47D Thunderbolt i know the Ju88 nick...just cant think of it right now IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 04-22- 12:44 AM You could also call the I-16 a Rata or Rat. IP: Logged
Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-22- 12:49 AM Man that was quick! Thanks guys. One more to pick your brains with - Yakolev Yak-3. I have not a clue what it's _Russian_ nickname is. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Psi Pilot	posted 04-22- 01:12 AM All the reading that I see indicates that the Lightning and the Thunderbolt are what they are and always have been and will always be. Source; Planes and Pilots of WWII... P IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 04-22- 04:19 AM If I remember right the 162 was known as the peoples fighter.. volksjager TS [This message has been edited by Tailslide (edited 04-22-2001).] IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 04-22- 04:23 AM 109k = karl IP: Logged
Vau Pilot	posted 04-22- 04:32 AM One more: Ju 52 - Tante Ju (Auntie Ju). Btw: The 109er-nicks are identical to the german radio-spelling-code - so the "K" should named "Kaufmann" and the "F" "Friedrich". Kaufmann? Sales Assistant? Proper name for an warbird, eh? IP: Logged
Commando Pilot	posted 04-22- 05:07 AM Dornier 17 , Flying Pencil. IP: Logged
Biggles3 Pilot	posted 04-22- 07:07 AM I think the P47s nickname was JUG ------------------ WHATCH YOU TAIL;) IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 04-22- 07:24 AM Here are the nicknames of the Messerschmitts: E=Emil F=Friedrich G=Gustav K=Kurf�rst The Focke Wulfs called "W�rger" The Dora Version "Langnase" or in english "Longnose" The He162 Salamander called "Volksj�ger" but "Salamander" is also correct. Do17 "Fliegender Bleistift" (Flying Pencil) The Me163 "Komet" or "Kraftei" Rendsburger Here is what Da Jug Head post to me: Saw your post, here's my input- guess I'm becoming a true "lurker". I've only listed the ones I'm totally sure of. 109F - Franz (?) Fritz (?) Frank or Franz, depending on the language 109G � Gustav yes 190D9 � Dora yes P47D - Superbolt or Thunderbolt? Both are official names. Thunderbolt from the B thru the early and mid D series, until a souped up D was reaeased called the Superbolt, all versions nicknamed "The Jug" P51 B & D - both Mustang, right? The official name was Mustang, nickname was a /the "Pony" P38 F & J - both Lightning, right? Official name, the Germans also called it "The ForkTailed Devil", some americans called it the Lightnin' IP: Logged
Mirthain Pilot	posted 04-22- 10:38 AM P-39 was the "Iron Dog". Mustangs were just Mustangs or Ponies. 47 was the Thunderbolt, pilots called it the "Jug" because it looked like a milk bottle if you put it on it's nose. Just curious, but why do you ask? You working on something? ;-} ------------------ Mirthain=FC= IP: Logged
li'l bastard Pilot	posted 04-22- 11:21 AM I know other names for these birds 109 F = Friederich 109 K = Kondrad P 39 = Airacobr He162 = Salamander or Volksjager IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 04-22- 12:07 PM Li�l B, F=Friedrich, not the Friederich,this what would say to a child. K=Konrad,Kurf�rst,Karl hehe whe have a few names here.I don�t know wich ich the right one,but i found Kurf�rst at www.Unsere-Luftwaffe.de a very good Luftwaffe site! But it�s not Kondrad with the "d" in the middle.Konrad is an old german Name! Rendsburger IP: Logged
li'l bastard Pilot	posted 04-22- 12:23 PM yeah whateva, I dunno much about german... LOL Btw, the site u r talkin about it's great!!! IP: Logged
Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-22- 02:14 PM quote: Originally posted by Mirthain: Just curious, but why do you ask? You working on something? ;-} Thanks guys, this is great stuff. Regarding the 190s, is "Wurger" the official name? (kind of like "Mustang" for the P51D?) It's official names I'm after. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 04-22- 03:00 PM I don�t belief that W�rger,Kraftei,Fliegender Bleistift etc. are offical names.I think only E=Emil,D=Dora etc. are official Rendsburger IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 04-22- 04:20 PM Isn't this "official nickname" a US-only thing? IP: Logged
Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-22- 04:38 PM I thought the names like 'Emil' and 'Gustav' were given by the German Armed forces, officially. Kinda like the Wehrmacht had named armoured units, like the 'elefant' or 'wespe', but I could of course be totally wrong. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 04-22- 05:04 PM I think all nicknames were used by the german Luftwaffe. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Sunray Pilot	posted 04-22- 07:49 PM A lot of the names, like mustang, were Brit names for the same aircraft. Some, if not all, Axis names come from the Allied side. Like the Oscar and Zero. So they're not really 'nicknames'. IP: Logged
Mirthain Pilot	posted 04-22- 08:50 PM Well, Most planes did have official names in most countries. It made it easier to talk about them and also gave the vehicles more personality. The P-39 offically was the Airacobra. Yes that is correct, the a is in middle there. Mustang Lightning Thunderbolt I do believe the Germans used the name's for ease of recognition. The Emil was easier to hear then e. It got rid of confusion between d&e&c.... Most good books give the german designations. This is from the bf109 webpage... Bf 109B Bertha Bf 109C Clara Bf 109D Dora Bf 109E Emil Bf 109F Franz / Frederick Bf 109G Gustav Bf 109K Kurfurst / Koenig So there you go. Those are supposedly offical. Good luck..... ------------------ Mirthain=FC= IP: Logged
Raider Pilot	posted 04-22- 09:23 PM The Mustang was designed and build for the British by a US company "North American Aviation" On October 26, 1940 the prototype was ready for its first test flight. The British have always preferred names to designations and gave the plane the name of Mustang; a wild horse of the southern states seemed suitable. The RAF would call it the Mustang Mark I. September 1941 the United States ordered 150 Mustang Mk1's. The US called it P-51-NA. Spring 1942 a dive bomber version was developed called the A-36A. It was also called the Apache and later the Invader, but the British name Mustang was the one that stuck. IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 04-23- 12:47 PM I still think German planes had no official nicknames. Dora, Emil, Gustav, etc. were phonetic codenames for letters, just like the now-international Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, etc. This is why the Bf.109 D and the Fw. 190 D were both called "Dora". You might as well call them Delta. In Spain, the Emil was called "Tripala" because it was the first variant with a 3-bladed prop. Back to the "avion Dewoitine type 520 � moteur Hispano-Suiza type 12Y45" for me. How's that, for an official name ? Papa Alpha Charlie Hotel Yankee, out. IP: Logged
Snickers Pilot	posted 04-23- 01:39 PM quote: Originally posted by Raider: The British have always preferred names to designations... Just like the Catalina was the British designation for the PBY-5.... Of the two designations, I prefer Catalina.... IP: Logged
Royohboy Pilot	posted 04-23- 03:39 PM I guess there are a couple of categories to distinguish between: 1. Codenames that one side gave the other side's aircraft (like Zero, Frank, George or NATO-codenames Badger, Bear, Flogger) 2. Official or semi-official nicknames (Frank = Hayate, Oscar = Hayabusa) 3. Designations that pilots used in combat reports - I especially like these, because they are pretty random at times. E.g. in North Africa any P-40 variant would be a "Curtissj�ger" (Curtiss fighter). When they were in doubt if it was a Hurri or a P-40 they would tend to list it as Curtissj�ger since it ranked higher. When the Kittyhawk hit the scene they would distinguish between Kittyhawk and the older Curtissj�ger. On a sidenote, I have recently read several D-Day accounts of British troops. They frequently reported coming under fire from "Spandaus". It took me some time to figure out that this probably meant about any German machinegun, though to my knowledge the Spandau was only used on German WWI fighters. Peter [This message has been edited by Royohboy (edited 04-23-2001).] IP: Logged
Snake Pilot	posted 04-23- 04:09 PM German pilots used to call B-17s and other heavy bombers "Dicke Autos." I think thats like big truck or something. Snake IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-23- 04:12 PM All I know is japanede planes so you guys are on your own. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin Brought to you by the Campaign for a better Pacific. FS Hangar [This message has been edited by Razer (edited 04-23-2001).] IP: Logged
Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-23- 04:33 PM Razer, what were the 'official' names for the Japanese planes in game? Ki61, A6M(x), Val.. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Sailor Pilot	posted 04-23- 04:46 PM As for the I-16, they were called "Rata" or rats by the Nationalists and "Moscas" by the Republicans. Choose your side... No Passaran ! Sailor IP: Logged
Vahnatai Pilot	posted 04-23- 04:57 PM btw...what do u need the nicknames for? just curious.... IP: Logged
Werner Molders JAG	posted 04-23- 05:06 PM quote: Originally posted by Vahnatai: btw...what do u need the nicknames for? just curious.... Oh nothing too big. I hadn't intended for this to become such a hot topic but if nothing else it's an interesting discussion. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 04-23- 05:25 PM Werner, not official but i want to notice that in germany nobody say Bf 109, everyone say Me 109. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-23- 05:52 PM Ki-61 : Hien A6M* : Reisen D3A : Aichi dive bombers N1K2 : Shiden-Kai That's all I could find on the Val. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin Brought to you by the Campaign for a better Pacific. FS Hangar IP: Logged

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