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Topic: Black Widow Attack!
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Hawk
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posted 04-15- 11:16 AM
   
 Spiders on the prowl.  http://www.rcwarbirds.com/bw.htm IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 04-15- 11:22 AM
 really rather nice I say!Suits you sir  IP: Logged |
spin
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posted 04-15- 11:59 AM
Hawk,It looks great. I'm curious if you plan to add the top turret (or was it part of the version you're building?). IP: Logged |
Razer
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posted 04-15- 12:25 PM
The model I made was the P-61B which did have the terrut but it was planned not operated by the gunner but locked forward and used by the pilot. Which was done in a lot of field MODs. I'm not sure how Hawk will set it up but it's how I first planned to do the plane in stormbirds.
Hawk, that looks outstanding!
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Tony "Razer" Martin
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Hawk
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posted 04-15- 02:00 PM
Nat, thank you. I do like this bird. I wanted to make a bad ass toy and this one fills the bill. The firepower is amazing, four cannons on the bottom, four guns on top. Coming in on a flock of FW's and opening all weapons up and seeing your tracers come close over your head from your top turret, the cannon rounds from the bottom and the FW's exploding in a guick volly is a real sight.Spin I am hoping to get a bomber sm to open up in OPS and steal a gunner station. I want to use the remotely operated top turret. It will be a challenge as the veiw will have to be from the gun and another from the gunners cockpit. Not sure how to do that yet but it would be cool. Razer thanks for your support and the great model that started this project off with a bang. IP: Logged |
Pete Hawk
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posted 04-15- 02:02 PM
Looking fantastic! Great work by Tony on the model and the progress of getting it into SDOE by Hawk  IP: Logged |
SchaF
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posted 04-15- 02:11 PM
fantastic .. altho i don't know almost nothing bout this plane..i'd say it's more or less unknown here in europe or it's just me.()------------------
Rip me open and erase me!!!!!!
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Hawk
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posted 04-15- 02:41 PM
SchaF it was used in Europe and the Pacific. Most versions were night fighters and were operational toward the end of WWII.Thanks Pete, this is a big project and a great learning experience for me. Again, any help would be welcome. My "to do"
list is very long so don't be shy. To do:
All outside viewing distance lods.
All damge lods.
Cockpits
Rear glass framing
Guns
Correct landing gear
Gun and naviagator, radio op stations
FM
Correct flaps (plane had several versions)
A couple of other things I am sure :-)
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BULLET
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posted 04-15- 07:56 PM
You might be able to yank the bottom turret off of Gustavo's Herc. modified Lanc. . It has a remote view like the B-17g chin turret.Maybe you could release the version without the turret first, and release another version later. Just an idea.....no hurry.... really......(tap, tap, tap,)...none at all..... take your time...... we'll just wait over here........quietly ......waiting .......waiting for the sun to go down..........uummmm hmmmm IP: Logged |
Raider
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posted 04-15- 09:52 PM
Killer job. Things like this are what makes SDOE so great.IP: Logged |
Snickers
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posted 04-15- 10:23 PM
Geat Hawk....!!!!IP: Logged |
Aladar
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posted 04-15- 10:35 PM
HOLY SPIT!!!!!! (I meant to say spit, ) THAT looks incredible, if you need cockpit info, you could steal some from the CFS2 one that came out, it is stupendous. IT ROCKS!!!IP: Logged |
hip63
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posted 04-15- 11:23 PM
VERY COOL! The P-38 & P-61 have always been my favorites!hip63  ------------------
...remember always fly HIGH!!!
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Psi
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posted 04-16- 01:35 AM
I would really like to see this happen for the fine people of SDOE.G.W. Bush IP: Logged |
Harman_5
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posted 04-16- 04:54 AM
Great plane Hawk. ------------------
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Karaya 2
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posted 04-16- 05:57 AM
AWESOME! Were these birds also called Havocs?
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Vahnatai
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posted 04-16- 06:11 AM
no that was the A-20 IP: Logged |
Sunray
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posted 04-16- 11:33 AM
Cool! The 61 was a purposely built as a night fighter. Crew of three, armed with 4x20mm guns under the fuselage and a 4x50 cal. machine guns in a remotely operated turret that sat on top and sort of behind the wings. It looked like the same turret you see on B-29's. The gunner's position was facing backwards and he operated the turret.
They, um, carried bombs too. Externally. Two 500 lbers I think it was. Or was it four. You could drop them one at a time if you wanted to. He said hintingly. Not that I'm trying to be pushy or anything. Or have a speck of talent to help.IP: Logged |
Hawk
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posted 04-16- 12:51 PM
Sunray, I have the turret modeled and the four turret 50 cal installed. It works great and the neat thing is I designed it to work with the pilot station or the turret station so you can fire all guns from the pilot or go to the turret and move it around and fire the 50's from there.The bomb load is also implemnted. If you notice in the picture above I have bombs racked. The gunner sits up high behind the pilot and faces forward. He has a swing around remote gun site and that view is modeled. IP: Logged |
li'l bastard
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posted 04-16- 04:23 PM
if I'm not wrong the A version saw combat in the Pacific teather, while the B one saw combat in Europe...li'l b IP: Logged |
li'l bastard
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posted 04-16- 04:29 PM
what about FR? How many polys does this beauty have?li'l b IP: Logged |
Werner Molders
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posted 04-16- 04:53 PM
Looks fantastic Hawk. The black widow was the first plane I ever built as a model kit. Your pic takes me back. Werner ------------------
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Hawk
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posted 04-16- 05:30 PM
The plane now is a frame rate hog. Razer's original model was made for Stormbirds and has rounder fuse and engine booms. I am getting 65 fps with one in the air over the ocean. 12 to 20 with 6 on the ground running. I am using a P3-800 with a Gforce card. My plan is to build the secound visual distance lod so that it will replace number 1 lod eventually. IP: Logged |
Pete Hawk
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posted 04-16- 06:01 PM
Hawk,You are definitely on a roll here
Just don't burn yourself out. You did those two air racers pretty quick and now this, pretty impressive! IP: Logged |
Psi
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posted 04-16- 11:25 PM
This is really strange Werner but that was the first model that I built too. I even have a picture. Ya years ago. Maybe we do have something in common P IP: Logged |
li'l bastard
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posted 04-17- 05:51 AM
hey guys, about the model u built (talkin to werner and psi), was it in 1:48 or 1:72?
If 1:48, what kinda brand? Was it a good model?li'l b IP: Logged |
Aladar
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posted 04-17- 06:00 AM
I had one, a Revell 1:48th scale, very nice detail, but I smashed it with a hammer when I got pissed off.IP: Logged |
Werner Molders
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posted 04-18- 03:03 AM
1:48. Being my first model and all I didn't do a very good job, so it eventually got tossed. I don't recall the brand. Werner ------------------
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Mirthain
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posted 04-18- 05:55 AM
Probably Monogram. 1:48, I believe it is still available from them. Local Hobby shop or craft store could order it.
Very good model.
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Mirthain=FC=
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Psi
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posted 04-18- 10:14 AM
Gosh Lil B I really don't remember, but the 1.48 and Monogram sounds about right. If I had a scanner I'd show you all what a cute kid I was holding the model P IP: Logged |
Snickers
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posted 04-18- 10:57 AM
Hate to tell you PSI, but you were never a cute kid... The paid someone else to sit in the same pose and then told you thats what you looked like... IP: Logged |
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