posted 04-04- 11:24 AM               

The german hot rod has been modified. Lot's of changes were made to the FM. I modeled it after the stats for the Ta 152H, as that was the only model for which I could find all of the needed stats. The max speed is based on the non- injected version which had a top speed of 431 MPh at 29,000 ft (the injected versions could hit 467 mph!)

The climb rate on this beast to 10,000 ft is incredible and it can zoom climb like you wouldn't believe.

You can find the file and a list of all of the changes at http://members.nbci.com/fs_pilots

FYI, the reason I'm not posting these to simfiles is I don't want to clutter it up with a bunch of betas.

Feedback would be appreciated as it would be nice to get the FM changes in PP6.1

Spin- I lost your e-mail address! please mail me.

Next - the Typhoon (good grief what a dog it is right now)

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posted 04-04- 01:50 PM               

I don't see much wrong with the Typhoon - I have roughly a 4:1 kill ration on-line in it. It packs a punch, is very fast low down and if used correctly is a very potent beast. It's only fault, in my opinion, is that it is not as stable a gun platform as the accounts in the history books.

posted 04-04- 02:06 PM               

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posted 04-04- 02:24 PM               

As for the Tiffie, here's some of the problems. Please don't think I'm chewing on you. Someone else may wonder why I want to fiddle with the Tiffie, so I thought I'd list my reasons.

Climb rate off
Engine weight is off because the weight of the coolant and oil is not calculated in.

Wing area distribution is way off.

Roll rate at 5000ft and 250 mph- almost 15 seconds

Instantaneous turn rate at 5000ft and 240 mph starting speed- over 30 seconds.

A lot of other things, but these, if nothing else, need work.

To give you a comparism
Actual performance stats for real aircraft at 5000 ft.

Hurricane I: instantaneous turn rate- 12 seconds, max sustainable turn rate 22 sec
P-47D: instantaneous turn rate- 14 seconds, max sustainable turn rate 21 sec.

From what I've read, the roll rate at this altitude should be 8-9 seconds max.

The climbing ability is off a bit too. The engine gear ratio was WAY off. In real life it was 3.65:1 using the SDOE way of showing it.

The efficiency numbers for the wingtips are too low. The chord length was close but not quite right, the area and aspect ratio for the wings were the same way.

Getting all these numbers entered as close to reality as possible has made a BIG difference in the Wildcat and Ta-152. I had to resort to very few "tricks" to get these tweaked in and it made the stall characteristics on the Wildcat and climbing Characteristics on the Ta 152 more realistic (I did have to fudge the air efficiency numbers a bit more on the 152 because it uses the fw190 airfoil).

On top of that, the AI can take off and land the Wildcat and Ta 152 without any problems, even with the increased torque on the 152.

Besides, you may be able to up your kill ratio to 5:1 after the mods are done.

BTW , is that ratio against the AI or on-line? I tried the tiffie on-line and got relentlessly chewed on by two newbies. Thank goodness the plane does a great hammerhead stall, or I'd have never shaken them.

posted 04-04- 04:10 PM               

I only fly against human pilots on-line. Very few allied pilots use energy well (spoiled by Spitfires) so it's relatively easy to boom and zoom them in the Tiffie (usually F-4 or G-6 109s as oposition).

posted 04-04- 04:26 PM               

try going back to the stock plane from 1.5 or pp5.3 and u will see a HUGE change in the way it flys.

posted 04-04- 07:46 PM               

On the Ta 152:
Just let me know what kind of help you need on the new plane and when you need it.

In the mean time, give the new FM a whril and let me know what you think.

on the Tiffie:
Boom & zoom in a Mk IIB Tiffie should not be a definite option.

Until they reinforced the wings and fixed some of the other problems which showed up in the Mk V and later, a number of tiffie's were lost either in a dive or pulling out from a dive when a wing would rip off . B&Z in a tiffie should be an alternative, but a risky one . Most pilots did not consider diving away an option when they got into trouble. This was the BIG reason the Tiffie was not considered a first line fighter and was relegated to tactical air support (At which it excelled). This is also why Hawker continued to make Hurricanes that were used in North Africa through 41 and 42 when the Tiffie was supposed to have replaced the Hurricane.

Now the Tempest is another story entirely.

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[This message has been edited by Da Jug head (edited 04-04-2001).]

posted 04-05- 11:32 AM               

The Ta-152?
Anyone fly it?
Yardstick, can you compare it to the data you have.

posted 04-06- 04:24 PM               

On the H-1, the MW 50 was actually carried in a 15.4 gal port wing tank, because there was no space in the fuse behind the cockpit, as that is where the GM 1 tank was housed. The other 5 wing tanks (2 port and 3 starboard) were used for 88.5 gal of B-4 fuel.This was supplemented by the main 130 gal tank beaneath & extending aft of the pilot's seat.Directly behind the seat was a cylindrical 18.7 gal GM 1 tank.

The Ta 152H-0 originally flew without the MW 50 wing tank & therefore did not use MW 50 injection.In fact, none of the 6 wing tanks were fitted (3 port/3 starboard).However, most of the 20 pre-production H-0s were modified to Ta 152H-0/R21 standard,which entailed the GM 1 tank behind the pilot's seat being replaced by a MW 50 tank.