posted 03-26- 05:03 PM               

Basicaly, it's a striped down Mogami tender renamed but with a landing plate that is so big you can put it anywhere on the terrain and it will cover the whole of the sea. It's hidden so you can't see it, although using F5 you will find it (but invisible)

I've done a number of tests and had no problems at all, used the Sea Operations training mission with the landing zone added, took off on the water and landed again on the water 10 miles away. I removed the landing plate from the Mogami but I don't believe you need to do this yourselves, I had to for my testing.

You can download the Water Landing addond at
http://members.nbci.com/naturlich/WaterLander.ZIP

Installation and use:

Unzip to your Media/vehicles folder
No missions included
Add the "Seaplane Landing Zone" to a mission using Mission Editor, Make sure you only try to use it with the A6M2-n
Make sure you place the landing zone in an area of SEA (not a lake)

Once in the mission you should now be able to land the A6M2-n on any part of the sea.

If no-one has any problems then I'll make one to use with lakes if it look feasable.

Again, this is all thanks to Mace, I just had the idea of making the plate big enough to cover all the water.

Please let me know of any problems so I can fix them (or try), this just took me 30mins to do after spending about 30hours trying and failing to add it to the terrain SMs.

Currently only the A6M2-n can use this, but obviously, if everything goes fine with this we can then have amphibious drivable vehicles, drivable ships, ect ect ect by using maces modifications to the Rufe

Argon.. get testing your torpedo with this

posted 03-26- 05:16 PM               

Forbidden message here too. Even for your main page....

posted 03-26- 06:46 PM            

This is incredible stuff you guys, I can't wait for the PBY, and for moving ships!!

Werner

posted 03-26- 07:16 PM            

WM

posted 03-26- 07:42 PM               

The 'alpha' Mogami has a small 5000' x 5000' plate so it could be put close to shore or in lakes.

Without Nat's larger plate if you blow up the Mogami (destroying it's plate) you can't land on the sea. However if you include his larger plate you can.

These plates can be adjusted and with the 'Beta' release of the Rufe I'm hoping to release a 'docklands' plate so can taxi down a simple ramp on the docks in the Africa / Pacific terrain and take off, do your mission and then land and taxi back onto dry land.

posted 03-27- 03:58 PM            

Great news! and such a small file

4k zip!

posted 03-28- 10:53 AM               

This all sounds great and I have put the water landing object into a mission and tried to land the rufe but it just doesn't work for me. Did I miss something? Is this object only for the pacific terrain or should it work in Africa as well? It doesn't seem to work in Africa and the Pacific terrain will take 1 week or more for me to download.

Please tell me exactly where to place the object in the mission builder, what terrain to use, is there anyway to know if you are over the object? etc.

Thanks,

posted 03-28- 11:24 AM               

It works with all terrains, PTO, Midway, Africa and Dover.

You ,ust create a mission and include the Sea Landing Area

You place it as a ground object in the mission editor.

It MUST be placed onto an area of sea.

Thats all there is to it. If you're still having problems after you've checked the above send me the mission over and I'll try it out to see whats wrong.

posted 03-28- 11:58 AM               

Thanks for the quick reply. I have done
all of what you mentioned. I will take a second look tonight and email you the mission
if I can't get it to work.

When I stop moving the rufe starts to sink slightly(tail first) and then bounces around pretty violently. What should I see when I stop on the water in the rufe both with and without the water landing area object in place?

Thanks,

posted 03-28- 03:50 PM               

With the plate you will get exactly the same as when landing at the Mogami in Maces test missions.. a few smallish water spouts as you contact the water, you'll slow down to a stop and end up just bobbing around on the water with 3 water spouts and occasionaly ones from near the wing tips. It wont sit still on the water though, I don't think we'll get it that perfect, but she shouldn't flip over, maybe after a few mins of leaving it sat there you'll get a bigger bounce no and again, but the "norm" is she just bobs areound with the little water spouts.

posted 03-28- 09:25 PM               

Oh... you mean if you start in the air, you have to lower and then raise your landing gear first before this will work! Ok I got it and it works great! You guys are amazing.

Who is going to build the first "driveable" destroyer so I can take over one of the big guns and lob some shells into an enemy airfield?

I little bird told me about the landing gear trick.

Thanks again for all the time and effort you all put into this accomplishment.

posted 03-28- 10:27 PM               

As for the first driveable ship.. well I have a few plans, I've almost finished an Arado Ar 196 float plane.. so, what I'm going to try and do is make the Scharnhorst drivable and at the same time add Mace's catapult and recovery system to it. The Arado will catapult from the top of the rear main gun turret and be recovered and put back by the crane system. This might take me a while since I've not made drivable ground units before, and none of us have made seabourne drivable units either.. should be interesting lol

posted 03-29- 03:42 PM               

What if for the subs we made the pilot not damageable at all? Would that work or would he grunt and groan the whole time anyway?

posted 03-30- 03:29 AM               

One thing regarding the drivable ships. I've noticed that it's practically impossible to start an object with aircraft properties (ie, a plane or drivable ship, car, whatever) in the water at the start of a mission. It will automatically be placed in the air (bad idea for a drivable ship) when SDOE starts the mission.

But there may be a way around this, it may be possible to suspend the larger ships at their docks (already existant in SDOE) by use of a crane just like Mace had suspended the rufe from a ship. Then the ship is lowered into the water and you can drive off!

Smaller boats can be 'launched' from a sort of sloping railing that will be placed on the edge of the land part of the terrain and the boat will be pushed backwards into the water.

Or, maybe Bryan and his patch team can come up with a way to let SDOE start airplane class objects in the water when placed over water with 0 altitude in the mission editor.

BTW, wouldn't it be cool if a value like "obNoWaterDamage" could be included in the OPP code, and then someone could make a nicely textured seabed and then just maybe subs would be possible that actually submerge.

Just a thought

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