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Da Jug head
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posted 02-21- 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting note from some testing.

If you think ground control of an aircraft is too sensitive, and set your rudder control to minimum sensitivity, it actually makes it MORE difficult to control the plane. The reason is, it takes too much rudder movement to induce a change, and the time it takes for the aircraft to respond contributes to overcorrection.

After a little playing and testing I did learn that :
1. The required setting varies with different sticks.
2. Depending on the stick, the ideal setting for rudder sensitivity SEEMS to be 1/4 to 1/3
of the distance from minimum on the slider.

The difference this made in the Bf109's, Mustang, and Yak was absolutely unbelievable.

Going too high make ground control and in-flight control too oversensitive. Going to low make in-flight response sluggish and ground control a major pain in the butt.

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Snickers
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posted 02-21- 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have the deadbands set to zero? If not this could be the source of what you see.....
Snickers

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Da Jug head
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posted 02-22- 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deadbands set to almost zero- best setting for my stick.

Increasing the dead band makes ground control worse in both situations (Tried on 3 different sticks w/ rudder control from 3 different mfgs). I'd actually have it at zero, but occasionally the rudder control on my stick doesn't quite return to zero from left rudder. The deadband I use is the bare minimum to cover up this glitch.

This test performed on:
Logitech Wingman3D
MS Sidewinder Precision pro
Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner
(When FS Central is farther along, I'm going to see if I can get Gravis to cough up their new 3D stick too)

The tendency is the same on ALL sticks. Rudder sensitivity set to zero makes ground control more difficult, and it was worse as deadband was increased because of the delay.

To write down the procedure I used would take too long. Suffice it to say this process took almost 3 hours. This was not a quick hit & run test.

Last, in case there was a misunderstanding, I'm not chewing on you Snickers.

I didn't post this because I'm having too many problems, I posted this to help others that may be having difficulty. (Just wanted to make sure nobody thinks I'm whining )

I hope this helps.

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That answered my question

[This message has been edited by Da Jug head (edited 02-22-2001).]

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Sailor
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posted 02-22- 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor   Click Here to Email Sailor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And it does help, thanks, I have MS SW force feed back and sensitivity and ground control are definetely impportant problems.
I'll try your seeting when i'm back home.
Tks
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Da Jug head
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posted 02-22- 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sailor,

This will help more than anything else you can do. Without this you'll have control problems with a MS stick regardless of what settings you use-
Go to The Stickworks at: http://home.att.net/~stickworks/swdownld.html

Download the CTFJV320.zip file
This is a calibration utility that works with all joysticks and really helps settle down the MS oversenitivity problem

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"Where'd he GO!?!?"
thunk-thunk-thunk-zing-OUCH
That answered my question

[This message has been edited by Da Jug head (edited 02-22-2001).]

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