posted 02-15- 08:27 PM               

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I found these pics at other forums.
30mm cannon damage

not sure what this damage came from

this looks like a 20mm hit on the spit

no pics at this ulr, but its interesting reading. http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/fgun.html

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posted 02-15- 09:25 PM               

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Cool pics. Thanks!!

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posted 02-16- 02:33 AM               

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The Mossie in the middle actually took a direct hit from a 37mm Flak shell. Got that pic in one of my books.

Shee-it. A direct hit from a 37!! Talk about tough plane!

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posted 02-16- 05:22 AM               

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Wood is a really good material for damage absorbtion!

Just can't see them finding enough to build 747's that way....

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posted 02-16- 02:15 PM               

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Now someone fix the Me-262s cannon armament, we have proof they are too weak. On the WW2 Fighters page on dogfighter.com they have a pic of that cannon and its MASSIVE.

Snake

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posted 02-16- 05:48 PM               

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hey does anybody else have some pics out there that they can post??? I just like to collect them.

I found this web site at another forum. They have actual german footage from ww2 that you can down load and watch on real player.
http://www.unsere-luftwaffe.de/archiv/videos/index.htm

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posted 02-16- 06:31 PM               

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Took a long time to find them, but here are some pictures of damage to a couple of PBYs....

Machine gun:

And then Anti aircraft fire...

Snickers
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posted 02-16- 07:09 PM               

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hey look at that pic of the cat, I counted 60 bullet holes. there are over 50 with out a doubt. they have to be either 30 or 50 cal holes and it was ball ammo or AP, but not explosive type. note it did little damage.

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posted 02-16- 07:19 PM               

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P-47 damaged by a flak hit

damage to a P-47's rudder by 1 20mm explosive rd.

note the large holes are 20mm explosive rds and the small holes are 7.92mm mg rds

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posted 02-16- 07:50 PM               

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I found a web site that has tons of damaged a/c pics in the thumb nail format. it varies from 30cal, 20mm, etc.
http://free.prohosting.com/~kopper/acdamg.htm

pics there are like this which appears to be 2 20mm cannon rds that damaged this B-24.

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posted 02-16- 08:01 PM               

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hey snickers I found that site with the damaged cats also, did you see this picture? pretty heavily damaged cat I would say. at first I thouht it was an F9F till it loaded right and I could see it.

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posted 02-16- 08:05 PM               

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yes I know will I ever get enough. here is a good pic of the difference in size of the rds used in american aircraft. the .30 cal (which is bigger than the 7.92 and .303 in length) the .50cal bmg and the 20mm rd for the hispano. last post promise.

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posted 02-16- 08:15 PM               

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ok so I went back on my word, check out this clip of a TBF missing wingtip

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posted 02-17- 02:21 AM               

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It ain't the length of the case. It's the size and make up of the projectile.
ie: a .303 British bullet is bigger in diameter than a .30 US bullet. (.315" vs .308") A 20mm projectile is much bigger than either and much bigger than a .50" BMG bullet. However, the 20mm carried an explosive warhead. The .50 did and does not.
The classic example of case length vs power is the 7.62x39 AK-47 round. It's muzzle velocity is about the same as a .303 British round, (2400 fps) but with half the case length.
If you're interested in ballistics, I suggest you read Hatcher's Notebook. He was a US Gen'l that worked between the wars on all this stuff. I can dig my copy out and post the publisher, etc. if you'd like me to.
Sunray out.

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