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Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-09- 05:18 PM Rendsburger presents: the "Flakscheinwerfer/skylighters" Coming,soon Rendsburger IP: Logged
Aladar Pilot	posted 02-09- 05:23 PM cool!!!!! IP: Logged
spin Pilot	posted 02-09- 05:36 PM Well that should just about do it for night flights - I can't wait to have this. Who's for dusting off the beta ? ------------------ Spin Visit Spin's Planepack Site to learn more about planepack V6.0 and ongoing development of the planepack IP: Logged
wakeup tailgunner Pilot	posted 02-09- 05:54 PM That looks really cool! Are those flat triangles or cones .... can't tell from the shots... And do they move? A nice random sweep would make those night-time missions really look nice! Best bit for me is that they actually look like they illuminate the planes. We don't have proper lighting, but they look like we do! Which Beta is it that let you change the sky colour? IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-09- 06:32 PM There are flat rectangles.I have paste it to the flakpanzer,so they will follow the plane. It´s very simple made,but looks nice. I´m not shure to make a real new model,because you can´t see it anyway in the dark,should i? I will add two dummy lights wich will make a random sweep. I don´t use any beta to change the background color, it´s the bad wether condition, i set in the mission editor. I´m not happy with the light texture, i want to make a new,notice that i can create transparent textures since today. If someone have pics of working skylighters,please post it here. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Pete Hawk Pilot	posted 02-09- 06:34 PM OMG, this game is being cracked wide open and new things being discovered more and more! VERY cool IP: Logged
Nat Pilot	posted 02-09- 06:57 PM Very cool ren! May I be so bold... if you alter the texture a little with black edges, then use a gaussian blur it will take a little of the sharpness off the beam (trying to be constructive) Still, this doesn't take away from the fact that it looks damn cool and is well done! IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-09- 07:33 PM Nat, yes that´s what i want to make :-) Whait a little bit and it will look more realistic. On my visualeffect list: Flashes and thunder for bad wether. Hangar and runway lights for dovernight. Fog,sand&snowstorms, maybe rain,sun and moon, but i don´t know how i can paste it to the viewer position so you can see rain from in- and outside from a plane(maybe it´s impossible) adding whirling sand to some ground units,so it looks like a little bit more,that they move. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 02-09- 10:09 PM Rendsburger, this is absolutely fantastic!! I think it'll soon be time to rent the Dam Busters Raid again, and take a look at those scenes where a bomber gets caught in a cone... Three of these flakscheinwerfers and we could have ourselves some pretty lively action! No beta either, that's even better! WTG Rendsburger! Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
3dp Pilot	posted 02-09- 11:45 PM OH MY GOD (and I'm an atheist!)! Does GT know about this? ------------------ Be seeing you, 3dp Visit RAF Harkness! IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:25 AM I know about it....and it's sooooo coool!! Now please rendsburger keep us informed about the ongoing of this project!!!! gt ------------------ GT's HANGAR IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:39 AM How should it be? In the moment the light is combined with the flak,that means the flak shoot at the planes. The light follows the plane one minute long before it lost contact, so you have to set a couple of lights on the bombers way,to get time enough to attack the bombers with the fighters.But this mean that the flak will take out a few bombers,should the flak do that? I can decrease the flakfire or i can delete it. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Starfire Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:43 AM I wonder when they made this game if they saw this stuff happening that you guess are doing? Dropping troopers, Dropping equipment, Search lights, Half-track, and yes even a car for driving the family on the weekends... you Guys make this game just so incredible. So to all of you I want to say thanks for.. and wonder if even the orginal designers for the game even thought about these things... ------------------ Wait I do not know how to fly this plane.... oh geezz... IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 06:32 AM one quastion more: is the original english name for "Flakscheinwerfer" - "searchlight" or "skylighter"? Rendsburger IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 02-10- 07:20 AM Mhhm a couple of answers to your questions: I think that YES the FLAK should knock-out the bombers. If it's possible I would even encrease the time (like 2min). The name for 'flakscheinwerfer' are corect 'searchlights', the name 'skylighter' arived later with the Yanks (the real name in english is 'searchlight') thx gt ------------------ GT's HANGAR IP: Logged
li'l bastard Pilot	posted 02-10- 07:39 AM couldn't this be applied even on planes as landing lights or for submarine hunters? li'l b IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 08:57 AM li'l bastard, yes that´s possible, but did WWII airplanes used landinglights? Rendsburger IP: Logged
Commando Pilot	posted 02-10- 10:14 AM In the Dambuster raid, a pair of searchlights were mounted underneath the fuselage pointing downwards and angled to meet at the correct bomb release height. In germany when nightfighters landed back at their bases landing lights on the ground were lit for a short time until the nightfighter landed, the night fighter mossies patroled known german nightfighter airfields and knew a german nightfighter was in the area when these lights came on and attacked at this point. IP: Logged
Biggles3 Pilot	posted 02-10- 10:58 AM yes the lyznder had landing lights in the wheel pods. talking of the lyzander wasnt Mr blob doing one, infact talking of mr blob HAs any body seen him? IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:03 AM ..just a little bit of artwork..sorry Rendsburger I had to do this (couldn't resist). Now I've ONE BIG WISH: Please keep up the work on the 'searchlights'!!! PS: It's artwork yes, but only for the colours and the blur...the rest is directly from the game!!!!!! cheers gt ------------------ GT's HANGAR IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:21 AM gt, very nics pics. Question, i´m looking for WWII airfields by night pics, i don´t know how it looks like. How was the runway light made of, real fire or did they use lamps? Rendsburger IP: Logged
spin Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:44 AM Dover Night looks fine with the standard version of the game if the overcast cloud cover is used. If you want to change skycolour to make it darker and increase the effect, then the beta patch does this - to my recollection it doesn't matter which version. Certainly Build65 contained this addition. ------------------ Spin Visit Spin's Planepack Site to learn more about planepack V6.0 and ongoing development of the planepack IP: Logged
spin Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:49 AM Rendsburger, I would consider having two versions - one with and one with flak. The advantage of this would be to increase the amount of skylighting - This could be really amazing online - especially with the beta - can't see enemies on map then they appear caught in the searchlight. Are you using the reduced strength flak as the base? IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:58 AM Sorry spin can't agree ...dovernight looks crapy without changing the RGB - colours for the sky (it's not just night...it's like bad weather thats all). Rendsburger: The german used (as far as I know) both type, that means lights and fires, but mostly lights, so they could be turned off very quickly ..as mentioned above. The english airfields had mostly fires (there was even a special code name for this fires..don't remember..sorry) gt ------------------ GT's HANGAR IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 01:30 PM update pic: Does it look to much like StarWars? I can´t made smoother edges. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 02-10- 01:51 PM Rends - keep it up! They do look a little light-sabre ish, but here's what I suggest to you. Either a)take my word for it and replace the blue hue with more of a yellow hue or b) Find a dusty room, setup a flashlight at one end, turn off all the lights (and the flashlight on) and observe. Not exactly a flaksheinwerfer but you can see the colour of artificial light in darkness a little better. One question - do the lights move through the sky much? If not (and I'm assuming they don't because they're mounted on a flak gun) would it be possible to make one that has a rotating dof in control of the light, so it just sweeps the sky like you see in the movies? btw whoever wrote about the DB Lanc's light system - that would be soooo cool if we had that. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 02-10- 02:44 PM hey rendsburger (I'll try in german..sorry for the others) Schaut jetzt viel besser aus! Ehrlich. Finde jetzt gut, dass Du eine vertikale Abstufung statt new horizontalen gemacht hast. Was da W.Molders geschrieben hat stimmt meines erachtens, dh. die lichter sind zu blau! Ebenfals die Abstufung von aussen nach innen ist zu stark, dh. sieht eher wie ein laser aus (die 'alte' version war da besser). Also: 1. Licht eher etwas gelber 2. Abstufung nicht sooo stark von aussen nach innen. 3. unbedingt weitermachen!!! danke nochmals vielmal!! gt ------------------ GT's HANGAR IP: Logged
Grandcharles Pilot	posted 02-10- 03:47 PM It's a great job !!!! IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 04:21 PM Thanks to all! It´s not easy to make a good looking tif. I tried yellow ones,but in the moment they look a little bit brown,like gt´s art pics,below. I will work on it! Werner,the light goes through the clouds.I think it´s not possible for me to add correct working dof´s to sweeping lights. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Starfire Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:32 PM Looks just great!!! The second way looks much better I second the idea of more yellow hue but I like it better. no not too star warsish. or just plain white. ------------------ Wait I do not know how to fly this plane.... oh geezz... IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:51 PM a hell,the yellow ones looks ugly. Don´t know why it looks like a yellow rainbow :-( Rendsburger IP: Logged
Pete Hawk Pilot	posted 02-10- 05:56 PM Rends, If you want to make it much more dramatic change the color of the fog from gray to a dark blue or similar color. It'd look REALLY cool! In one of the newer betas of SDOE you can do this. You have to put some numbers in the actual mission file using a text editor. I forget how to do it though. btw I like the pics in the middle, the bluish looking laser beam types. So does my son [This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 02-10-2001).] IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 02-10- 06:47 PM I post all light.tifs, so everyone can use the lightcolor he likes, and maybe anyone pick it up to create a realistic one! Rendsburger IP: Logged
Starfire Pilot	posted 02-10- 07:24 PM Son likes the blue, Wife likes the yellow she says it looks more realistic... seeing the yellow I am kinda in the middle...maybe fade the Blue so it does not seem so dark... Great work though either way and adds some nice aspects to the game. I look forward to being able to play with it. ------------------ Wait I do not know how to fly this plane.... oh geezz... IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 02-10- 07:51 PM I know, how bout a yellow-bluish color! IP: Logged
Aladar Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:08 PM I like the blueish lightsabre looking ones. IP: Logged
Vahnatai Pilot	posted 02-10- 11:54 PM rend...i like the blueish one better too...i have an idea...when u release this...release one with a blue hue..and 1 w/ a yellow 1...to satisfy both groups = ) IP: Logged
3dp Pilot	posted 02-11- 12:33 AM I just scared up some real footage and the beams looked surprisingly crisp to me. Some fade out would be great, but of everything posted so far, my vote actually goes to the original crisp white ones as looking the most acurate. The beams I was looking at actually looked pretty narrow too and did not widen out as much as they appear to do in the posted pics. Second opinions on this from others would probably be in order! Fantastic work! We all stand in awe and thanks! Keep it up! ------------------ Be seeing you, 3dp Visit RAF Harkness! IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 02-11- 12:37 AM I think Vahnatai's got the right idea. Rendsburger, would it be much trouble to release a few versions? I mean the most important part is the width variants, because there are more of us that can then make different coloured lights than can change those OP properties like you do. Do you know what I mean? Release one where the sides of the beam are parallel, and another where they are just like the ones pictured above, spreading a little. If you have time to do different light beam 'skins' that would be even better. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Starfire Pilot	posted 02-11- 12:58 AM LOL was just thinking... Skins for the seachlights... sorry but that struck me as very funny Werner... ------------------ Wait I do not know how to fly this plane.... oh geezz... IP: Logged

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