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Hans Rudel
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posted 01-28- 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some of you out their use them admit it! Now Id like to pick your brains and find out which you like best and why ....... because I plan on buying a pair. What do ya say?

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Razer
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posted 01-28- 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anything by Thrustmaster is the best. thier stuff lasts long and is the most realistic you can get. Thrustmaster Elite Rudder pedals have lasted a long time and are great. I've used CH peddals and i went back to thrustmaster after only a few mins.

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Hans Rudel
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posted 01-28- 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive been told that by a few other simmers also. Thanks Razor.

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Da Jug head
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posted 01-29- 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing that's very important when looking at rudder pedals is the brand and model of the stick.

Some sticks work with pedals and some don't. Give a little more info and we'll let you know if there may be a conflict.

For example, I saw a review for a set of rudder pedals that work with Microsoft joysticks, but they aren't cheap.

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Hans Rudel
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posted 01-29- 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh OK. Well I have a Logitech Wingman 3D Forcefeedback. I heard Thrustmaster makes goooood peddals. What do you have? And will they work with my stick? And wouldnt the box say on the outside which sticks the peddals are comp. with?

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Poniat
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posted 01-29- 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poniat   Click Here to Email Poniat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might want to try Simped pedals. They are German made, use Hall sensors instead of oridinary potentiometers therefore are not susceptible to 'voltage spikes'. There were supposed to be various versions, USB included. I haven't tried themso cannot vouch for the. They were reviewed at Combatsim some time ago.

Any non-USB pedals works on the principle of using a second joystick input. Tou normally have only one connector on your soundcard. Some pins are assigned to joy A the others Joy B. Thus your X-axis JoyB input will receive a voltage from your rudder pedals pot while Y-axis pot will pretend to be a throttle.
Some sticks (Logitech including) may have problems when designers of their software "forget" about the ruder and the throttle. Logitech for instance fixed their drivers which in early release blocked the information from the voltage sensors of the X-axis B thus disabling rudder pedals. Theyfixed it at an later stage. My logitech still won't allow an external "potentiometer" throttle to be seen by windoze.

With all USB setup you are at the mercy of the makers of your hardware I'm afraid. While I can connect any given 100 kohm pot to joystick inputs and use it for a throttle or ruder such manipulations are impossible with USB. The price of progress Aha, and the Logitech people tell me they won't fix their drivers to allow use of external throttles they are too busy with new projects, bummer...

At the moment I'm flying without pedals so I can understand your situation (it sucks) so...

Good luck

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Sv
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posted 01-29- 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the Simped pedals. They do have a good response, but they are a bit simply made - they kind of have sharp exposed parts and get real dirty real fast. Also, some parts fell out of mine and then the pedals did not rotate as well. Also they are not too heavy, so mine always wanted to rock when I used them.

All in all, I did not like using the pedals, the twist joystick is much more practical and feels real good to me. Sure, pedals are better for a feeling of really flying, but as soon as the novalty wears off you have to deal with a big clunky thing that does not fit uner the desk right.

What I really want is a real life-size between the knees flight stick!!!

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Hawk
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posted 01-29- 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv you can make a long flight stick. Get the Microsoft stick because it is very sensitive in SDOE. It is short throw like the racing tranies of old so you can add a long extension. The extension will actually smooth out the stick for SDOE.

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jgro
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posted 01-29- 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't want to spend lots of money on rudder pedals, make your own. check out my web site http://www.progeng.com/rudder/ I made my own for about $20.00 and took me about 3 hours to build. Been using them for a year now with no problems.

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Pye
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posted 01-29- 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice,,, and interesting JGRO

Not even gonna think of buying any now
I'll definatly try the DIY way.

I love those links to others designs too!

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Poniat
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posted 01-30- 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poniat   Click Here to Email Poniat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe,

Mine were a DIY lash up. Even without looking at your page I'm sure I won't find anythig like them.

It was an inverted "T" (upside down) shape thing made of two narrow strips of plywood with an axle made of a nail holding it on a piece of laminated chipboard. The linear slider pot was mounted at the top of inverted T letter stem. The stem itself was being held from both sides by pretentioned rubber bands (lots of them ). The cost was the cost of the pot exactly (I went for quality there - no spikes for me ).

It was a pre-prototype jobbie borne out of frustration caused by inavailability of any pedals in the stores and lashed up within an hour. Once under my desk and out of sight it served me (well...) rather well until the time of moving. I just chucked it, I've kept the pot though, I might want to build a proper set one day (I know I will).

Now going to check your site

Good luck all

[This message has been edited by Poniat (edited 01-30-2001).]

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ritt_bear
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posted 01-30- 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ritt_bear   Click Here to Email ritt_bear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hawk, it sounds like U actually used an extension on the Sidewinder. Can U help out the rest of us and post the needed measurements for that extension? Or a link where the info can be found? Thanks {:O)

BTW: I flew my first couple of FS games last night on the Cali12 server ..... what a great bunch of pilots.

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Hans Rudel
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posted 01-31- 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your help guys! Im going to check out the build your own sight too.

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Hawk
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posted 01-31- 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ritt-bear it is very easy to do. If you want to test it first to find the length you need just tape a yardstick to the stick and trim untill happy.

For the ultimate unscrew the handle from the shaft and attach the correct length of pipe (use plastic plumbing pipe)screw the handle to the top of the new stick then add wire extensions to all the wires leading to your hat, buttons, ect that are on the handle, tape them up and you have a custom floor stick!

This will take some simple engineering and bashing so be careful.

The MS stick is way sensitive in SDOE and this will tame it down and give you that flying feeling for sure. I does cover a wide area so trim the stick to get the sensitivity and swing you want.

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[This message has been edited by Hawk (edited 01-31-2001).]

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Hans Rudel
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posted 01-31- 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know if cable modems use the USB ports? If so how do you connect stick, peddals, and the cable modem to a tower with only two USB ports? Is there some kind of addition you can plug into the USB port giving you a few more ports to use? Like a surge protector with more out lets.

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Nat
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posted 01-31- 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My monitor has a USB HUB attached to it with 6 ports, but you can buy USB Hubs seperately, if I remember rightly you can daisy chain hubs to a maximum of 127 devices total. Sorry though, I don't know the cost

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Hans Rudel
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posted 02-01- 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans Rudel   Click Here to Email Hans Rudel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent. Thanks Nat.

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