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Topic: IL2 latest pic and info
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Nat
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posted 01-19- 07:23 AM
   
Hey guys, well as some of you know I've not been able to get online much recently, anyway, got that problem sorted out, so I thought I'd post a little IL2 pic now I'm back. Progress currently stands at:Advanced engine DM complete
Advanced wing DM 90%
general DM comkplete
Lower level LODs complete
Texture 90%
Cockpit 50%
FM complete
Loadout 50%
DM effects (bullet holes, burn/blast marks) just started
Wing sections damage models (groan) just started Help needed on following things (if any volunteers)
Prop needs sorting out, mainly Fastprop
Shadow really needs sorting out
Cockpit dial explinations.. I have pics, but need to know whats what, anyone know about Russian dials?? Well, here's a pic of here right now.. a little smoothing needed still in places, but she aint lookin too bad, but she's one mean ole bitch when you open up with the guns and cannon lol
 ~Nat~ ------------------
7./JG3 "Naturlich"
"SDOE... What and where would you like to fly today?"
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ArgonV
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posted 01-19- 07:28 AM
Hey looks sweet!  Any chance of me getting an update? 
What prop problems are you exactly having? You might want to talk to WT about props. The main prop needs to be centered in AC3d or Max. You can tell if a prop model is centered by going into OPS and telling the prop DOF to align to the props orgin. If it doesnt go exactly in the center, then the prop model is not centered. You can also tell by looking at the inertia boxes after you import the new LOD. If the inertia boxes are way out of place, then the prop model is not centered.
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Private Roger
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posted 01-19- 07:54 AM
NatSweetness!!!!!!!  Mean ol Bitch huh? Sounds like my ex-wife! Keep up the great work buddy! PR=FC= IP: Logged |
Da Jug head
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posted 01-19- 10:53 AM
Nat,
Can I get a copy of here for SDOE PR pictures and to test fly?Thanks ------------------
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Jeeves
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posted 01-19- 10:57 AM
Hey...I like the winter skin!! If there are any major changes to her, can you send her to me so I can adjust anything that needs adjusting in the missions? Thanks....------------------
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Gustang
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posted 01-19- 11:53 AM
Oh wow! That's looking way fine!Great job! IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 01-19- 12:04 PM
That looks great Nat !! This is going to make for some fantastic eastern front campaigns ! I have some books on soviet planes will see if I have any juicy stuff on the IL-2 for you. I do remember reading that it was an extremely tough plane, very hard to shoot down. It did have one weakness though.. the belly was vulnerable can't remember why. TS
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Razer
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posted 01-19- 01:26 PM
looks great Nat, the flags on the prop should be 43 not 83. if you want, send me the SM and i'll fix it. It's just a quick 2 sec job. [This message has been edited by Razer (edited 01-19-2001).] IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 01-19- 05:05 PM
Tail! All data is very helpful, since all I've found is very basic information, top speed @ 4600ft, span, wing area, max hp, but nothing on roll rate, climb rate, actual loadout options (nothing clearly defined) I could do with any info you have so that I can make sure I'm within the correct range for the FM. You talked about the toughness of the IL2, Snickers was reading a book where a German Ace tells of his encounters with IL2's, and how he would watch bullets just bounce off it! The weak spot he found was the air scoop, the oil cooler is just inside it and one of the only un-armoured parts on the whole aircraft, the trick was to get underneath and your nose upm hosing the oil cooler. As you might expect, this wouldn't destroy the IL2, but it sure as hell put it down. This is modeled on my IL2 aswell But believe me, it's actually not that easy to take it out, more often than not the only way I've shot down the IL2 is by blowing the crap out of one of the wings.. I think I need toughen them up some in the DM really.Tony, thanks alot for the offer, I didn't want to ask you cause I knew you wanted a break, but I'll send her over and make some notes on the problems, if you can help out that would be a great help, I'll get it over to you either tonight or tomorrow, as always Tony, thanks alot Jeeves, Argon, Jug, I'll make sure you all get copies sent over for testing/nit picking etc Thanks guys The Winter skin will be the release skin, I need to work on it till I'm really happy with it, or if Diego has time and would still like to, then I'll let him do it, I have template skins ready and we all know he is a master at art work. What I really want to try and do is to get the IL2 finished for the same time as Stalingrad Terrain, and release them together, or at least within a week of each other, but there's so much more I want to add to the IL2 that it's taking a long time to finish, thats why Tonys help is realy appreciated cause I know I'll struggle to get the prop and shadows done quickly or even correctly. Thanks again, I love the way you guys help out {{{Group Hug}}} lol ~Nat~ IP: Logged |
Diego Lozano
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posted 01-19- 09:43 PM
Nat,
You know that problem that I was ranting about? Well...I think I'm over it now. Seems like I cant stay away either. Just when I thought I could just drop off for a while, I'm sucked right back in.
Send me that bitch! I'm on a skinning roll over here. As soon as I'm done with these skins, I'll jump right back into the snowpile IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 01-19- 09:46 PM
LOLOL I know Diego, it's a major problem with this game, hell even if you don't fly it (which I rarely do) you just can't help but build and do stuff for it I'll send you through my 3 skins, winter, temperate and template, then you can tinker to your hearts content IP: Logged |
Loco
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posted 01-19- 10:48 PM
Looks Great Nat!IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 01-20- 09:44 AM
For the "temperate zone" people, I'll add this to the skins when it's finally finished
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ReKKa
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posted 01-21- 10:49 AM
This looks incredably good.
I can't wait 4 its release (any chance of a possible date ).Whats on the wing? 2 37mm cannons? Ouch! ------------------
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Maury Markowitz
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posted 01-21- 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Nat:
for the FM. You talked about the toughness of the IL2, Snickers was reading a book where a German Ace tells of his encounters with IL2's, and how he would watch bullets just bounce off it!
To be specific, the cockpit area was wrapped in thin sheet steel. As a result the MG caliber bullets would simply bounce off at anything over a few hundred feet. The same system was used on the german Hs 129. In the IL-2 I believe the armor did not enclose the gunner, just the pilot. So if we're putting in killable pilots, this should be taken into account. Finally this plane is just as suseptible to engine and control damage as any other. It was overbuilt in some ways, but it shouldn't be _that_ much harder to shoot down (as is evidenced by the thousands shot down). Maury IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 01-21- 02:53 PM
The rear gunner wasn't protected thats true, and yes he's been killable for sometime now The armour enclosed almost all critical systems, but as for the wings and fuse, it wasn't armoured as such, but it was built around a toughend airframe so armour wasn't required, all spars and struts were much tougher than in almost any other aircraft. As for it having been shot down in large numbers, I don't doubt it, since even a tough aircraft can only take so much, and with a max speed of 250mph, those 109's can swarm over it easily. Still though, your points are valid Maury, but thats one reason why the engine and wing DM's are so very advanced. It is hard to put this aircraft down,. but it has it's weeknesses, and good cannon hits will do the damage very quickly, MG's just take longer, but I test against Spits and 109's, and the spit1a can take an IL2 down with the advanced DM Along the same lines TG has added the same engine DM to the 109e4, I've done some testing and I'm very impressed with the results Nice one TG!IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 01-21- 03:05 PM
oh, the guns, it's the type3, not M3, so this one carries 2x27mm cannon, 2x7.92mm MG and a rear gunner with a 12.7mm mg, the M3 carried 2x37mm, but they were reportedly not as good as the 27mm, lower rates of fire and more prone to jams although obviously more kill power, but believe me, the 27mm split tanks open after a few hits, and aircraft are shredded when hit IP: Logged | |
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