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Pachy Pilot	posted 01-11- 06:17 PM Well things have been a little been slow for a few weeks, but I'm getting back to work. Dear passengers (huh?), we have just took off. Our speed is about 195 kph and our climb rate is 2 metres per second. Unfortunately, most other instruments aren't working yet Note the OPL RX39 "Lantirn gunsight". Because of impossible to find data, the reticule was taken from another French gunsight (Baille-Lemaire 38). Here's a close-up on two instruments I really like (although the needles will have to be redone, and the shading is strangely dark): the RPM indicator: the VSI: Ok, I've cheated a bit. All instruments textures are 128*128. Unless someone objects this, they are going to stay that way. I'm not using that much of them anyway If anybody has data about the altimeter, I'm most interested of course. It seems to have only one needle, and I guess thousands are on a little disk like on German instruments of the era... But I'm not sure, my pics of this instrument are very poor. Thanks for your attention, and sorry for the double post in Tech Talk! Oh, almost forgot: I'm looking for painters. There are a vast number of interesting and attractive skins to be painted for this bird. French (great variety of course) Italian, Bulgarian and German paint schemes. If you're interested, I can send all the color profiles you want IP: Logged
Aladar Pilot	posted 01-11- 06:22 PM Looks great!! I love the gunsight!! IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 01-11- 07:47 PM Great news! That gun sight does look interesting. God speed on completing the first real French plane Pachy! (Besides the Nieuport 17) Something that should of ben done long ago. Tell me, will you bring us a whole line of French planes in the future? P.S. Who is beta testing this sucker for ya? IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 01-11- 10:16 PM Outstanding Pachy, it's really coming along well. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
semmern Pilot	posted 01-12- 02:34 AM That looks smasher, Pachy!!!! Can't wait! IP: Logged
li'l bastard Pilot	posted 01-12- 06:11 AM send me a template or just the scheme u use and I'll do some skin for ya! li'l b ------------------ IP: Logged
Sailor Pilot	posted 01-12- 07:04 AM Bravo, �a s'annonce vraiment tr�s bien ! Anything I can do to help, please let me know, I'll do my best. CU Soon Sailor ------------------ IP: Logged
Grandcharles Cadet	posted 01-12- 03:32 PM Quel travail magnifique. Pour t'aider je veux bien recevoir le template pour essayer de cr�er un skin de cet avion. en plus voici une image du cockpit d'un d520 bonne r�ception IP: Logged
Sailor Pilot	posted 01-12- 03:57 PM Bravo ! c'est la plus belle photo de cockpit de De 520 que j'ai pu voir, d'ou vient-elle ? A+ Sailor IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 01-13- 08:46 AM Elle est dans le DTU, cette toph... Well guys can nobody explain to me exacly how this altimeter works? It's on the right, under the VSI. And what is written on the landing speed indicator? There's a problem on the pic (reflection?), and it's the only one I ever saw of it. What French plane would you like to see? I'm not making promises, but I already have some ideas... I tend to like planes that saw action under different theatres and varied circumstances... That excludes those who only fought during BOF. I'm thinking of a bomber (you're guessing now, right?), but the amount of required work seems totally unrealistic. ... or it does not need to be 100% French. Please tell me what you think about this. En fran�ais, si vous avez la flemme. IP: Logged
Grandcharles Cadet	posted 01-13- 10:32 AM here's the website where you can find this picture: http://warbirds.decollage.org/navigation.htm Pachy, what do you mean by DTU ? For the planes, why not a Morane Saulnier 406 ? some of them was used in Finland. IP: Logged
Niji_GC.I/3 Cadet	posted 01-13- 11:29 AM Pour moi, le POTEZ 6311 serait merveilleux! felicitations pour le D520... IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 01-13- 11:46 AM Pachy, I have a general love of ALL French planes. They had a unique style to them. Ive never seen an "ugly" French plane. The choice is yours. Im not going to tell anyone what to build. Just for refrence, here are my favorite French planes: -Arsenal VG-30 Series -Bloch MB-155 -Bloch MB-700 -D.520 -Morane Saulnier 406 -Potez 631 -Potez 671 But for now, get back to work on the D.520! IP: Logged
Sailor Pilot	posted 01-13- 11:49 AM Hello Pachy, My personal preference goes to the Breguet 693, but it only saw action in France (although some were flown to Algeria in late june), but I know you are dreaming of a LeO 451 (great choice - very interesting bomber..). I guess Curtiss H-75, Bloch 174 (of St Exupery), Morane 406 and Potez 63-11 are second best choice. BTW I have a complete documentation on the MS 406 (with all components weights and locations relative to CoG, original (?) drawings, cockpit description, performances like speed at # altitudes and climb rates ). And you know that any plane will be very welcome ! Cheers Sailor IP: Logged
Arrowbase Pilot	posted 01-15- 07:33 AM As often said here: I can't wait to fly her! ;^) Pachy, I'd be glad to paint something for this bird. Could you please send me a few (2 or 3) of french profiles (FAFL prefered). It's brilliant to have at last a real french manufactured warbird. Thanks in advance Bonne chasse et bon vol Arrowbase arrowbase@waika9.com IP: Logged
Bresse Cadet	posted 01-18- 03:44 AM Why not a Leduc? Not yet have my joysick and my game back IP: Logged
Arrowbase Pilot	posted 01-18- 09:54 AM Pachy I got your profiles. They are beautiful and nicely detailed. By the way, did they have been painted by this talented french guy (another G�el but I don't remember his family name) who draws the profiles for "La Fana de l'Aviation"? Bresse: It should be a nice experience to build a Leduc for SDOE but, excuse me, to paint a skin for this bird is either exciting (the pilot glass cockpit) or boring (only silver?). IP: Logged
Bresse Cadet	posted 01-18- 10:41 AM Imagine... IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 01-18- 02:55 PM OK, on the altimeter, the scale around the outside probably shows 100-foot (meter?) increments. Just like a standard altimeter. The needle goes around clockwise. Now, look under the "5." Can't tell for sure, but that appears to be a secondary dial. That may show 1000s of feet (meters?). Need a closer shot to be sure. So you basically have two DOFs to build, and two "needles," but one of the needles is actually a dial. The dial would be marked 1,2...15 or so for 1000-meter increments. As the "clock hand" sweeps around once, the number "1" on the dial should be indicated. Second clock-hand revolution, "2" shows on the dial, and so on. At least that's what it looks like from here... It's also possible that there are TWO needles there, one small and hidden by the larger. If that's the case, it's probably just a standard two-hand "clock" type altimeter, and the little secondary scale at the top is the barometric pressure setting scale. In fact, based on the little adjusting knob at the lower right of the instrument, this may be more likely. A third possibility: the scale around the edge of the altimeter is in 1000-meter increments, and the single needle is all there is. That would give a max altitude of 10000 meters on the guage (33000 ft) which might be a little low? ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 01-18- 04:34 PM Jedi, I like the secondary dial idea, (as they were also used on German planes, see http://www.hyperscale.com/reference/fw190_cockpit/DashMap.html . Here's my interpretation of it: Lfbpro says the numbers are probably wrong, and only "5" should be written intead of "5000". The D.520's ceiling was about 10500 m so I guess this secondary dial only goes from 0 to 9... And yes of course it's in meters, SI units were used in aviation by every country by the time. Except of course UK + Commonwealth + USA, power of 10's are too simple for your complicated minds Ok, ok, I already ranted about OpenPlane being based on imperialistic units so I'll stop here [This message has been edited by Pachy (edited 01-18-2001).] IP: Logged

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