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Topic: Zur - Fw190D-9 FM
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Yardstick
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posted 12-08- 09:12 AM
   
Hi David, I'm going away for the weekend so am posting this on the forum rather than mailing you directly. A while back I was testing out some betas of the Fw190D-9 FM that you were working on. As you did not have time to finish, it did not find its way into the planepack (pp5.3 at the time).Whilst this is not a finished version, it is a hell of a lot better than the current D-9 FM which is so week that it is almost never used online. Flying for JG3 a German squad we are rather limited by the aircraft we can fly in competitive engagements, in reality the Fw190A-4, Bf109F-4, G-6 and K-4 ( the Me262 is uber, the He100 way off spec, Fw190A-8 very unstable in the yaw axis and the E-4 suffers from under powered armament). As we are closing in on the deadline for the pp6 patch, could you consider releasing the unfinished D-9 FM? Whilst it's not perfect, it is a hell of a lot better than the FM that the D-9 currently has. I still have the file and have fixed the canopy position. If you want I could pass it directly to Spin. ------------------
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Zurawski
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posted 12-08- 09:31 AM
...Yard,Actually I'm way ahead of you...  I released the updated 109s to Condor to do his DM magic on. (Both he and Tail could attest that the FMs are better). I've applied the same FM refinments to the Dora that I did to the 109s... Suffice to say, the Dora is now even better than the previous one you tested! It'll be ready for the PP6 patch... no worries!  IP: Logged |
Yardstick
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posted 12-08- 10:56 AM
One word - COOL Did you by chance look at the yaw control on the A-8? It would be nice to see that used a bit more online. ------------------
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Tailslide
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posted 12-08- 11:56 AM
Would it be possible to get the DM weakened on the 109's? They seem to be the hardest plane to kill online. TS IP: Logged |
Zurawski
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posted 12-08- 12:01 PM
...Tail,I "think" Condor is applying his DM tweakage to them... (I assume this is for online?) Condor? IP: Logged |
Werner Molders
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posted 12-08- 12:35 PM
TS - I'm not here to start a debate about whether the 109 or the spit 5 is the hardest to kill, but I am a bit concerned because I was flying offline last night in a 6 on 6 109f vs spit5 engagement, left it to the AI and the spits romped, with four surviving (two collided). The more disturbing part was that it took only a tiny burst of combined MG-cannon from a spit to cause a 109 to explode into several pieces... Are DMs skewed somehow online? Even flying the 109 felt like a totally different (and awful) plane, are FMs warped somewhat as well?Thanks, Werner ------------------
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Zurawski
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posted 12-08- 12:49 PM
...Werner,Actually the PP6 109's were FM'd prior to the understanding/intruduction od "physical fule-tanks"... Because of this, as far as FS was concerned the entire tail-section of the 109s "is" the fuel-tank. Hence the current 109s propensity for the tail-section to blow off. The new FM'd 109s (with physical tanks added)... address alot of the 109's problems both FM and DM wise. Condors DM additions will obviously bare this out even further... IP: Logged |
Himdog
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posted 12-08- 01:36 PM
Hey guys I have an idea. Why don't you just get delete all the German fighters from sdoe! It would be much easier that way. I really don't need to hear your BS on "I read this in my book and the values say it should be this way". I don't see you messing with the Corsair, Hellcat, P51 and a few other allied planes. You're just too busy trying to hand tie the German aircraft for your easy kills. Sorry this is nothing personal but I'm really getting sick of this favoritism to the allied planes. Can you say PACKET LOST!!! This is my opinion and again nothing personal. I know how hard it is to do all this coding, I do it every day of my life at work so I do know where you are coming from.------------------
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Zurawski
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posted 12-08- 02:35 PM
Eh!?Um... Aside from the "cordite-tail" I personally had/have no problems with the 109s! I'n fact "my" changes actually give the 109s a greater chance of recieving tail-damage without going from "plane" -to- "parts" IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 12-08- 08:09 PM
All the spits were weakened for PP6.. in testing I had them even weaker but Zur suggested I went too far. I still find the spits too tough online as well compared to the other planes and i plan on weakening them some more. Right now the p51, 190a4, yak, zero, pe2, mossie, p38, 262, bombers are much more killable online than the spit and 109. TS IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 12-08- 08:11 PM
Also re: flight models I find the 109G6 turns better than the spit ix which may not be right. AI vs AI the better turning plane will usually win since its not so good at boom n zoom. TS IP: Logged |
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