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Snake
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posted 11-26- 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can turn with an FW-190 and outturn a Bf-109E4. I don't think it should be able to do that seeing as they made a Tempest out of the Typhoon to fight a/c with.
Also when the loadout is blanks it has 5000 rounds per gun.

Snake

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Pachy
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posted 11-26- 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this that unrealistic? The new wing on the Tempest was essentialy designed with speed in mind. And the Typhoon was used as a fighter for years before they converted it to ground attack role. I'm not sure about the Typhoon, but there are several combat reports (I know, nobody trusts those here ) of Tempests turning with 109Gs.

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Aladar
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posted 11-26- 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Pachy, whatchoo gonna do with that tempest laying around on your hard-drive? You could send it to me if you want .

[This message has been edited by Aladar (edited 11-26-2000).]

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Commando
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posted 11-26- 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Commando   Click Here to Email Commando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No idea about the tiff's turning ability but its main problem was its performance died above 20K ft, so it could only be used at low level which of course then led it to take the ground pounder role due to its tough construction as well as its good perfomance at low level.

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Snake
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posted 11-27- 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understood that the Typhoon cmae first and wasn't all that great a fighter. The desginers then came up with awing that looked like the Spitfires because thats what was 'in' at the moment in the DoD. So they made a kickass fighter out of a not such a kickass fighter.

I may well be wrong.

Pachy, I would imagine that the tempest would be able to run rings around the 109G its just the Typhoon might not.

Snake

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-Audet-
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posted 11-28- 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for -Audet-   Click Here to Email -Audet-     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Annother problem with the early typhoons was the the tail ripped when manuevering. Oh and the cockpit filled full of engine fumes.
But the Tempest was very cool and was fast due to the thin eliptical wing.

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 11-28- 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Tiffie and Tempest pilots used to fly on oxygen most of the time, even at low altitude. CO and CO2 emissions from the motor would quickly fill the cockpit with some very unpleasant effects. The Tempest at least cured the 'whoops my tail has fallen off' syndrome!

The fury and the Tempest II were basically the same plane. Take one Tempets, remove the Napier Sabre motor, and slap on one Bristol Centaurus radial. Job done!

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Maury Markowitz
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posted 11-30- 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maury Markowitz   Click Here to Email Maury Markowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pachy:
Is this that unrealistic?

Yes. The Typhoon and Tempest had poor wing loadings IIRC.

Maury

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Mark_Walsh
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posted 12-03- 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark_Walsh   Click Here to Email Mark_Walsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wakeup tailgunner:
The Tempest at least cured the 'whoops my tail has fallen off' syndrome!


Hello WakeUp

As I understand it, it was only the early Typhoons which had the problem with the tail planes. They were successfully strengthened and the Typhoon itself became a very successful strike aircraft with lots of speed, good armament, capable of taking a lot of damage, well before the Tempest was out there. Except for the difficulty starting the engine, it was extremely popular with its aircrews.

S!
MW

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Tailslide
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posted 12-03- 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Typhoon FM is incomplete, these are the only changes made to the stock plane:

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I have checked top speed at 18,000 feet and it appears correct. It may be too fast above this altitude. I haven't check climb rate but the loaded weight of the machine is correct. Also I have set convergence on the guns to 300 yards, and moved CG aft to about 30% MAC. For some reason I had to angle the wings -4 degrees to compensate for some mysterious pitching up. Elric's notes say there was no angle to the wings so I think it has to do with how the wings are oriented on the plane, this needs to be investigated. Travel distances for all surfaces set to real world values.


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