posted 11-17- 03:36 PM               

The first image shows the zero with a smoking engine with smoke in the cockpit. The fire is a fuel leak out of the exhaust manifold which has ignited. I think its pretty cool. The fuel leak does not always ignite either.

This is the rear view of the zero:

This is an image of the P51(Green Skin). It shows the P51 with a smoking engine with smoke in the cockpit as well. In this case the fuel leak out of the right exhaust manifold has not ignited:

I would like to get any and all input on how these effects should be changed/improved, etc.
Most of these effects are pretty easy for me to modify so wish away on the damage effects and I will see what I can do.

Spin,
Please send me an email and let me know your timing for the pp6.0 revision package. I need to know how much time I have to complete
these engine damage effects.

Thanks,

Condor out

posted 11-17- 04:12 PM               

Next, upload your pics in JPEG format, and stick them up on your website. Right click on the properties of your image when you view your web-page, and copy the proprties. Then you can past the link into your post.

posted 11-19- 04:28 PM               

Thanks,
Condor out

posted 11-19- 04:48 PM               

Click on edit to this post to see the correct syntax.

Cheers,

AGAS 5

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posted 11-19- 07:11 PM               

I hear ya argonv i think thats a code thing though.

Maybe you can make it even smaller and shorten the stream of fire?

Little fire looks kinda cool.

Now multiple streams of it of varying size would rock.

posted 11-19- 07:41 PM               

Thanks for the input and I totally agree with the length of the fire thing. Anyone know how to shorten it? I can't find any other way. It does seem to be controlled by the game engine itself. Two or more streams of fuel are possible, but I am not sure if they would both catch on fire.

Do you guys like this general direction for visual damage effects or am I barking up the wrong tree? Although I am creating these damage effects for myself, it would be even a bigger plus if the general community wanted these effects too.
Also what do you guys think of the bullet hole effects created by Raider on the P51?

Thanks,

Condor out

posted 11-19- 08:35 PM               

Btw, any way to add cowling damage like on the Jug? Imo that rules!

Werner

posted 11-19- 08:53 PM               

I think it works this way; the bulletholes appear when a PART of the plane has been hit, it doesn´t show up exactly where the bullet hit on that particular part of the plane. Raider also made them appear randomly by making a lot of holes on one part of the plane and then giving them different probability to show up, so if your vertical stab for example is hit not all of these bulletholes will show up. That way it won´t look exactly the same every time. Very nice!

Hope I´m making myself clear and I hope I´ve gotten this right.

posted 11-20- 04:51 AM               

It's been a bit of a labour of love, but I think it could ultimately bear fruit!

As Condor is showing, you can do a lot to simulate damage effects through the SDOE code. Also, ArgonV, Nat and otehrs have been coming up with ways to affect the flight model through damage. This is great, but I don't have the OPS skills or time to follow there work as closely as I would like.

What I am able to do, is to work on the actual model part of damage. Raiders bullet holes look good, but you can't really see them in game. If you make the holes bigger, you get problems with them not fitting cleanly on the wing, or of a few hits with a .303 blowing holes like a 30mm cannon!

So, what I have started doing, is to build layers of detail into models. The PBY has an engine under it's cowling. Each cooling flap is a seperate model. So, you could lose flaps, a cowling, and there is a radial engine underneath it all! The new B17 and the B24 all have this too. Swap parts for damage LOD's and you have the visual model to match the physics!

posted 11-20- 12:06 PM               

I will go with this for now and hope to improve this over time. I think it is better than what we had before(which was nothing ). Also remember when the game engine itself starts the fire(as it has in the above pictures on the zero), it uses the diameter of the current smoke trail. When the fire is started in the plane's engine the fire looks better, but it is still very long.

Condor out

posted 11-20- 01:41 PM               

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Originally posted by Condor:

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Shouldn't the fuel leak be grey?

posted 11-20- 05:33 PM               

If you look at the fuel leak on the p51(which has not caught fire), it is actually mostly grey with a slight purple tint, as was actually the case with high octane fuel in the real P51.
If you are referring to the fuel leak on the zero, since it has caught fire, I think the flame yellow color is accurate.

Please let me know if you think the colors should be adjusted some more. It is really easy to change the colors and I don't have any set standard. Those who make their wishes know have the best chance seeing them make it into the game.

Thanks,
Condor out