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Topic: Plane pack info on planes/updates - no flames here - developers pls review
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spin
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posted 10-14- 10:34 AM
  
Here is a list of the planes I've currently included in the plane pack in development.New Planes / Variants a6m2
Beau21
Beau21 - Australian loadout
BeauI
BeauVI
BeauX
FreHurr
FreLanc
Heinkel162
ju87g2 (stuka)
lancsp (dambuster)
Mistel1
Mistel3
p39Q
Pe2
Seafire
Ta152 Existing Planes / variants with updates B17G (stronger damage model - not the current effort by wt though)
bf109e4 (explosion bug fixed)
bf109f4 (explosion bug fixed)
bf109g (explosion bug fixed)
bf109k4 (explosion bug fixed)
Fw190A
Go229
Lanc (need to fix fuel consumption problem)
a6m5
Typh
Yak3
Spit
Spit1a
SpitIX Existing Planes (no changes to current pack) a36a
B17F
Cors2
F4f4
F4u
F4u1
F4u4
fw190a3
Fw190a8
Fw190d9
He100d
hurrmki
I16
Ju88A4
Ju88G7b
Me262
Mosq
P38J
P47D
P51D
p80b
The following planes have updates posted in beta form that I have not included in the update to this point. If the creators would like their updates included please post a link to their most recent version that they would like to include.
P47D
P51D
Razer, to this point I've included the p39q mainly because it's Russian and the more the merrier there. If you don't believe it's in an acceptable form for online let me know and I will remove it.
There are a bunch of spit variants for Australia that I haven't downloaded yet. Jedi, do you want these included? (if so post link here please) Are there other planes/updates that should be included that I have overlooked. If so post here with appropriate link. Thanks to Roadtoad for giving me permission to include the Ta 152, He162 and Go229 in this planepack. IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 10-14- 10:48 AM
Hey spin, going well there bro  my only question may not be relevant to this thread as you may be dealing with it seperately, Ground Units, don't forget them in all the bussle to get the planes in there. If you are using mine the best thing to do is download the Scharnhorst pack and anything you want that was released after that.Good luck spin ~Nat~ ------------------
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"SDOE... What and where would you like to fly today?"
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Razer
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posted 10-14- 11:05 AM
Leave all P-39's out. They in no way meet my standard for the planepack. Versions i have here do (CoG bug fixed) but i don't want them in the pack till i'm 100% ready for them to be added. I'm sure i wont get Beta2 out the door before the pack, but i'll start working on it again and see if i can a better version to you with the CoG fix. ETA on pack release?Spin, don't forget to put the Zero's in the japan nation.
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Tony "Razer" Martin
"Making SDOE a dangerous Place, One plane at a time!"
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jedi
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posted 10-14- 11:29 AM
Hmmm. What's the timeframe for the planepack to be released?The Spit VIII will be out this weekend I hope, but they're still technically "beta" and I think they probably need a few weeks of play in case I missed a bug or something. I'll post the link for both the Spit Vc and Spit VIII tho, and if you like you can include them. OTOH, the Corsairs have a possibility of being upgraded very soon with Mace's new carrier ops systems. That could be built in pretty fast, if we're talking about a few weeks before release. If you're talking a release in the next couple of weeks, tho, no change to Corsairs. I have no immediate plans for updates to the Spits, unless bugs are found, so they shouldn't generate mismatches. Also, if you're not using the actual zipfiles I made for the Lancaster Special, you'll need to add the special weapons into the pack. Same thing for the working torpedos for the Beaufighter, etc.
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Aladar
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posted 10-14- 11:45 AM
WHOA, RAZER, YOU OUTTA YOUR MIND?!?!?! The P-39 is my favorite plane in SDOE right now, it would suck big hairy monkey nuts if we left it out!!IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 10-14- 11:53 AM
Does the B17 really need to be any harder to kill? I usually manage to take down at least two fighters and make it home as it is..
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Pang
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posted 10-14- 12:07 PM
We still need to track down a problem with the P51d, Spin. We can't get it to run in any of the FS versions with the developer tools in them, so I'm not quite sure of the precise CoG right now. Soon as that's ironed out, we should be good to go. It's flying pretty sweet, but not quite 100% yet.Pang IP: Logged |
spin
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posted 10-14- 04:55 PM
Nat,I will include ground units would you mind if I leave out the yamamoto, it's quite a large filegroup and hard on fps. Razer, I understand you not wanting to release it for the pack yet - I will remove it. But I agree with Aladar it's already a fine product - but it's up to you. Jedi, I've got the weapons systems you mentioned included. I'd like to go beta on the pack this weekend - and would prefer not to add changes (other than fixes) after this point. If you post the links to the viii and vc I can include them - Australia needs a couple of planes. No better way to get feedback on minor bugs than to get them out there. Tail, I have wondered about the b17 toughness, but have found this version stands up much better to flak hits than the current version. It's always been frustrating to have an escort group successfully divert or defeat interceptors only to have 3 17s go down on single hits from aa units within 30 seconds of each other. Maybe we should reduce the warhead values in the aa units instead. If others agree I will return to the current version. I'll make a point of this as part of beta testing - if it's too difficult online to kill we'll return to the 5.3b version.
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ArgonV
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posted 10-14- 08:58 PM
Spin, PLEASE add the torpedos in to the mossie and beaufighters. That would be sooooo kewl for on-line play. It would also enhance the next SDOE War.IP: Logged |
Nat
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posted 10-14- 09:11 PM
Hey Spin, Brother, add and leave out what ever you like from my site, most people know where to go to get the units so it's cool with me if you don't add it, that being said, the gun sounds are used by most of the ships I have made, so if you're worried about the sound files making it a large file spec for the Yamato, well, the other ships use the same files so you'd have to add them anyway or leave all the ships out, just so that you know.Later Spin! ~Nat~ IP: Logged |
Raider
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posted 10-14- 09:40 PM
Spin, I will upload and post the P-51D for you with the link Sunday morning. Pang, I will send you a version that works in Build 76. Hope we have time to add your updates.------------------
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Pang
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posted 10-15- 12:57 AM
EXCELLENT NEWS!IP: Logged |
Raider
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posted 10-15- 12:30 PM
Here you go. http://sweb.uky.edu/~jamuth0/P51DBeta3a.zip This version corrects the AI from thinking the plane is destroyed if you lose the use of an aileron. Although it has Zoycite's skin we planed to release for the final, this is not the final version. Still to come are the 3D details, brake failure and flat tires. I can have this done in a few days. But I know you are on a deadline too. Good luck Spin. Pang, this version works in Build 76. I think Condor found the problem. There seems to be some kind of conflict with previous version of the P-51d in the plane pack par files or something also a problem with the fuel loadouts in the missions. (Good going Condor) I did a fresh install of SDOE then installed the Build 76 beta patch. It worked with no problem. Hope it does the same for you. Let me know. IP: Logged |
spin
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posted 10-15- 01:06 PM
Thanks for the 51 update. You'll get lots of feedback soon I'm sure. IP: Logged |
Bulldog2
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posted 10-15- 01:49 PM
YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SPIN.JUST WANT TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION. IF I CAN HELP IN ANY WAY LET ME KNOW. IP: Logged |
weasel
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posted 10-16- 07:23 PM
How about the updated P-38? Can we have this one also?
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Gustavo
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posted 10-16- 07:34 PM
It would please me that my models of airplanes are included:Me agradarķa que sean incluidos mis modelos de aviones: Fw190-A5/U13 
Fw190-F8 & F8e
Ju88-DN & DNw
http://habitantes.elsitio.com/gusalpad
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Bishop
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posted 10-17- 02:52 AM
Good work Spin!Just a note that might save a little download space: As far as I know, only Australia flew the Mark 21 Beaufighter (in the PTO). So you only need to include the Australian Mk21 loadout. Again, good work! Bishop IP: Logged |
Snickers
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posted 10-17- 09:16 AM
RE: P38 The latest model update from Razer should be included. Unless the release strethces out a fair piece the FM and DM changes will definately NOT be done in time  . (Especially since I want to see Raider get the P-51 all the way done before he starts DM on the P-38). FM testing is underway, but we have to test the current FM against the numbers we are shooting for and the beta FM against the numbers. When we compare the two, then we know what to change. I intend to make the reults of the FM testing available once we are done so next time only one set of tests needs to be done.The other piece is the P38 FM is not an easy one to work on (ask Zur....). [This message has been edited by Snickers (edited 10-17-2000).] IP: Logged |
Maury Markowitz
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posted 10-17- 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Tailslide:
Does the B17 really need to be any harder to kill?
Emphatically yes! Try the He 100 demo mission some time, I can take out all three bombers at least 2/3rds of the time and make it back home. I used to think the guns were "off" in the 100, but nope, it's just the way it is. Not bad for a single MG/FFM and two peashooters! Maury IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 10-17- 10:44 AM
Maury, this may have something to do with the cannon shells on the He100 in SDOE being set to 2 pounds of explosive each I sent Spin a fixed loadout for the He100, should be in the next plane pack.
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spin
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posted 10-17- 12:06 PM
Gustavo - I will download your latest later today and will try to include.Snickers - I will get the latest p38 model (I gather fm is currently equivalent to present pack) Bishop - the Australian Mk21 and the British Mk21 are identical the only extra thing is a small loadout file. B17G - I will include the tougher B17 for the beta - online beta testing will determine if it remains or we go back to the 53b version. I know offline this version is far more entertaining than the current pack. IP: Logged |
Tailslide
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posted 10-17- 01:18 PM
Spin, the he100 is listed as no changes up at the top there?IP: Logged |
Whirlwind
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posted 10-17- 01:32 PM
If you want, I'll take a look at the engine DM for the B-17 and make it easier to take out by hitting the engines while increasing the drag/tweaking some other things to make up for it while still maintaining the effects of a lost engine. Send me the one you want to put in the pack.IP: Logged |
spin
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posted 10-17- 03:39 PM
Tailslide I have the He100 loadout fix in place. I forgot to mention that change.Whirlwind, I'm not sure what kind of time-frame you're looking at. With WT's B17F updates I'm wondering how much duplication of efforts would be resulting. Your ideas sound interesting though. I'm happy to work with what we have and what people work on. If you're keen to do it go for it. If changes are available in 2 weeks we may be able to sufficiently test in advance of releasing the pack to include your suggestions.
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spin
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posted 10-17- 06:17 PM
Snickers the p38j update by razer was never posted , I therefore can't add it to the pack.Gustavo, I've added the ju88DN but not the 190s (I need to look at the pack size again first). I also didn't add the winter version - the winter terrains have never been made online standard - so I don't believe it makes sense to add a separate plane strictly for winter terrains to the pack at this time. IP: Logged |
Bishop
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posted 10-18- 01:54 AM
What I meant to say before was that there was NO British Mk 21. The Mk 21 was purely an Australian plane. Therefore if Nations 2 is an online standard, there should only be the one Australian loadout.Sorry if I didn't make my ramblings clear earlier. Thanks,
Bishop
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