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Zurawski
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posted 10-10- 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, boys (and girls?)...

The PZL development is progressing along at a dizzying pace! That said... There are areas where I am in dire need of rescources!

1.) Need a cockpit layout. I can't find squat!

2.) ANY specific flight performance data. I have the "general stuff" ... need turn-speed, roll-speed etc.

Thanks in advance!

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Poniat
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posted 10-10- 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poniat   Click Here to Email Poniat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zur,

Have you tried asking Woolfman on the EAW forum? He's created a bunch of Polish planes for EAW so he might be in the know.

I'm a little short of time to do any research (I know, I promised, sorry ) but if he recommends any books/modellers plans still available I'll get them for you.
I might be going to Warsaw on business on Friday, I'll try to visit "Pelta" the military/aviation bookstore there, please note the word try

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Pachy
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posted 10-10- 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, do you read Polish? I bought a book last week about the D.520, but it's in Polish. Well I'm not even sure it is Polish(!) but it was printed in Warsaw. I bought it because it has lots of colour profiles, 3-views and pictures even of the rarest variants and prototypes, so it's good to have even if I can't read most of the text.

So, to the point: I might have a page or two (not 200) I'd like to have translated. Some very technical stuff. Would you like to help?

Thanks!

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Eyes
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posted 10-10- 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zur dont forget the PZL 24 ! LOL ! Find some things about it too !

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Zurawski
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posted 10-10- 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Poniat,

No worries my friend, I fully understand! If you stumble upon something great!... if not no problem.

...Pachy,

I could "try". However, Poniat can vouch that my engish-to Polish is best described as "rough".

...Eyes,

LOL! No worries! I've already looked into what the extent of midification would be necessary. (suprisingly little actually)

MAN!... I'd kill for a cockpit shot!

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Werner Molders
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posted 10-10- 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zur - I can't remember, did I send you the "script" for Poland?

Werner

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Zurawski
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posted 10-10- 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Werner Molders,

Nope.

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Werner Molders
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posted 10-10- 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incoming!

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dauntless851
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posted 10-11- 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dauntless851   Click Here to Email dauntless851     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://perso.infonie.fr/elarger/ukpzlp11.htm

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Zurawski
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posted 10-11- 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...dauntless851,

WOW! You just made my day!

I don't know how you stumbled upon this but... "thank-you..thank-you..thank-you"

(I did at least 25 different web-searches and didn't find anything like this!)

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dauntless851
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posted 10-11- 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dauntless851   Click Here to Email dauntless851     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zur, it's from one of my all time favorite sites. All modelers should go here:
http://www5.50megs.com/robertlundin/

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Maury Markowitz
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posted 10-11- 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maury Markowitz   Click Here to Email Maury Markowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pachy:
Hey guys, do you read Polish? I bought a book last week about the D.520, but it's in Polish. Well I'm not even sure it is Polish(!) but it was printed in Warsaw

If it's one of the series I'm thinking of, they're [U]great![/U] books! There's a store here in Toronto with about 15 of them, but more than half are Polish only so they're not that much use to me.

There's a similar "detail and scale" sort of series from Japan that is equally amazing, they pick a single plane and basically walk from front to back taking pictures of every possible detail, including many pictures of the cockpit interior. Each page has a picture of the plane with a portion coloured in so you even know where you're looking. In this case the text is both Japanese and English, which is handy.

Maury

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Whirlwind
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posted 10-11- 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I weren't scrounging for cash to visit all of my family, I'd be interested in some of the books in Japanese as my wife speaks it and she wants me to learn it.

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Lothar
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posted 10-11- 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lothar   Click Here to Email Lothar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patchy, I can translate Polish for you. Do you have a scanner?

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Poniat
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posted 10-12- 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poniat   Click Here to Email Poniat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leave this fricking forum for two days and see what happens!

1) I am going to Warsaw tomorrow (Fri) and I will try to convince my boss that stopping by the bookstore (for a tiny winy little pee ) IS absolutely necessary. Now where is that bag-o-money? They f***ng nicked it? Ah, well...

2) Pachy, as I'm a native Polish I'm prepared do some impressions of calls, yawns, shrieks (whatever) in this language. Just send me a list of songs and I hum them for you (going to the shop to get some beer to make myself sound beautiful...)

3)[after the break] Pachy, hmmm, reaading Polish, well my mum did try to teach me speak this tongue, my dad had a great collection of belts so the teaching progres was smooth (allegedly). Reading, as some people (those who can read) know is another matter, noneless send me all your books and I will translate them for you, and don't forget about the English and other languages books, I might try my hand at reading and translating them too Seriously, I translated some Polish stuff for a Swedish bloke on this forum (sorry, I really forgot your nick, too lazy to fire up my mail client to check it) so I can do some more if you send me the texts. If only they stopped me pestering about some work to at my work...

4) Zur, there's a company that was going to built scale flying replicas of the P.11, you might want to check them out.
Historical Aircraft Corp
(612)451-3283
Type: HAC A-001
Powered by: Ford Pinto 55 kW (75 KM) engine
Building time (kit form) 1600 h.
Wingspan: 10,5 m
Weight: 486 kg
Speed: 136 km/h
Range 483 km.
Kit price 17.000 $
Ready to fly price 28.500 $ (1990 year prices).
If you happen to be near your bank could you order one for me please, I'll collect it when it's ready ?

And I can vouch for you when you get me the plane, OK? Before no smooth talk, I'm afraid.

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Poniat
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posted 10-12- 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poniat   Click Here to Email Poniat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[what the...? I just submitted the reply and it didn't show up on the board here we go again]

Pachy, send me all your Polish books and any other interesting books in other languages and I translate them for you.
OK, if you can send me th text, just do it and I'll send the pidgeon English translation for you (in parts if it's longer than War and Peace).

Zur, great you have those those cockpit photos, it'll save me (NOT) that trip to Kraków's aviation museum where they were taken at.

You may try contacting a company who were going to manufacture scale flying replicas of P.11s:
Historical Aircraft Corp
(612)451-3283

Type: HAC A-001
Kit price:$19750
Building time: 1200 h
Powered by Ford Pinto 55 kW (75 KM) engine (there were some problems with those weren't they? )
Wingspan: 10,5 m
Weight: 486 kg
Max speed: 136 km/h
Range: 483 km.
Ready to fly price: 28.500 $

If you get me one of those I can vouch for anything you say

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