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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...if I only had the Africa Supertif all "untiled". Before you say just use the untiler, I've tried it every wich way and it just will not work on my computer...dont know why.
What I really need is for someone to "untile it", put it up somewhere so I could d/l it and in a week guaranteed you'll all have a basic Pacific terrain with working airfields etc. Based on the work I've been doing on Singapore, this would take no time at all.
It just kills me to come upon a CFS2 screenshot and know that we are this close to having a much better looking terrain. So, if you'd like to help create this, please contact me at dlozano@mediaone.net

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why not just use IrfanView Diego, untile is crap in comarission (no offence to whoever wrote the prog, but it's true)

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nat, I'm aware of Infranview but, how can I build up a Supertif with it? I just use it to convert images.

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
er.. oh... duh! sorry Diego, had my head thinking of something else, I'll see what I can do, but hopefully someone with a cable or DSL connection can help out, cause if I can until it for you the upload will take my poor modem forever, I'lll let you know how I get on Bro

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
man am I dumb sometimes, I'm on it Diego

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll try one of the older versions of untile, that latest I could find gives out errors and stops

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego, did you convert the tiles from tif to bmp before you tried untile?

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, it's untiled, but in JPG format it's 17mb, I can only upload a max of 11mb to my site though

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I converted them to BMP using Infranview.LOL!

The problem I had was I always got an error message about one tile not working. That was with the full 400 tiles so I tried it with 3 tiles, still the same error message. And yes, this was in DOS mode.

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, check that you have deleted the tif version of the files, it sounds like you're getting the same error as I did before I remembered to convert them to bmp, once I did that it worked, could be your tif versions are conflicting if you didn't delete them

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay now we're getting somewhere! Hold off on the email I sent you until I get super desperate! Let me try it again with your suggestion.

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
rgr, aint seen the mail yet, uploading it to simfiles, I'll break it off when you let me know you're ok

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Nat
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posted 10-08- 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah.. 5mb limit on simfiles.. lol, let me know how you're going and if it's still no go I'll upload to yours

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It still didnt work! FRUSTRATING!! Well, send it to my site.

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are Nat and I the only people interested in getting new terrain for SDOE? Maybe I'm just beating a dead horse here.

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Private Roger
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posted 10-08- 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Private Roger   Click Here to Email Private Roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm extremely interested, but I wouldn't begin to know how to help.

I'm in the corner cheering your progress though.

PR=FC=

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Jerry
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posted 10-08- 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Diego. I didn't notice that the subject of this thread was whether we wanted a Pacific terrain or not. I erroneously thought it was about untiling an Africa Supertif....whatever the hell that means.

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Werner Molders
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posted 10-08- 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in with Pvt Roger, I eagerly await the new terrains!

Werner

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 10-08- 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as a fully paid up member of the Pacific Terrain Fan Club....

What shape airfields have you made for Pacific?

I'm still working on Midway and some aircraft carrier shaped fields for this very part of the world. I have been occupied with pursuit of the holy grail of pacific terrains, the wet landing, and I still have some things to try on that front.

Modelling for Team PBY has been occupying me recently, along with a few other things...

The trouble with terrains is that few people have really given them a lot of thought, other than to fly over them. Cracking airfield co-ords and start positions was actually pretty easy, but only when you got stuck into them. Terrain may not be as glamouroud as plane building, but it is THE big thing about the sim for me. It has lumps in it's terrain!

Oh yes, and the pacific terrain has framerates you can really play with!

Any help you need, if I can do it, I will!

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TG,
Here is what I have planned if I dont get too pissed off first. The Pacific terrain will be a "simple" repaint of the Africa terrain. This will include its airfields and its ability to have the AI use them. There is ONE thing holding me back, reassembling the Africa Supertif. I'm forgetting about Untiler working for me, so I'm looking for help getting either someone else to use it and upload it where I can download it or come up with a better way to reassemble the Supertif.

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Jeeves
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posted 10-08- 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell yeah guys!!! I am a HUGE fan of the Pacific theater...so much in fact that I have redone my Midway campaign (yet to be released until someone finishes the damn Dauntless!!! Will someone finish the damn Dauntless so I can change my signature ...and while we are at it-- Avengers participated in Midway...so did Devastators ...) to include the Midway terrain in place of Africa!! Go for it guys!

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Sv
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posted 10-08- 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So where are you now, do you need the tiles still? I can host create and host them if there is still a need...


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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-08- 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,
I'm about where I was this morning. I'll need that Africa Supertif at a place I can d/l it from. I'm lucky enough to have a cable modem so it wont be a prob on my end, not sure about your end. You dont know how much you'd be helping us out here Sv. Eternal thanks is more like it!

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Razer
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posted 10-09- 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, this doesn't have much to do with the terrain, but i'm almost done on the new Ki-61 model and i'm also updating the A6M5 in my spare time to update the DM and add a few new graphical add-ons. Will go great with a nice terrain! Here's an image of the scheme i plan to release with the updated zero.

[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 10-09-2000).]

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 10-09- 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego, DON'T DO IT!

Instead, make me a few tiles with flat toped coral atol's and I'll stick an airfield on each. If they are placed around a flat sea, as per the bulk of Midway, grouped to look really coral-ish, with a few lagoon tiles around the place, we could have something up and running that was far better than a re-paint. Nat's practically all water job was excellent for framerates and ship units, and now that I have managed to even make an airfield shaped like a carrier that the AI will use, it seems a backward step to re-paint africa!

As soon as the B17 is finished, I'm going back to work on Midway, and will happily model this stuff, ready for work. The only problems I have had with terrain have cone from trying to map more than 1 texture file onto the pieces of a model and have it look ok afterwards. I think I have it cracked now though. Need to do some more work on making the carrier bridge function as the control tower.....got to be done... but when finished, I plan to have a largely water terrain with a few coral atols to the NW, a large ring shaped reef with a lagoon ( eventually, this will be somewhere to fake land the PBY, a Carrier task force to the NE with a couple of sscattered coral islands with airfields around the rest of the map.

Not historically modelling any region, it will be generic Pacific. Midway is just a little too bare. I have three airfields on mine, and adding more just makes it look cluttered.

All the fields I plan will be short runway, rough made things, Those camo nets will probably look good, as will a few new ground units I have in the works. Oh yes, tents etc. will form a lot of the buildings. Anyone know how to replace those trees with nice palm trees?

I may relent and put One bigger field for bombers!

Is this where we want to go? Or must we have a real 40 mile chunk of pacific ?

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Nat
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posted 10-09- 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first an appology to Diego, sorry Bro, I wasn't feeling great so I had a little sleep after my last post/e mail.. and I've just now woken up (check out the times!!) by blood sugar has been a mess recently and I think thats why I've just slept over 12 hours, got the doc in a couple of hours.

Anyway, I'm currently uploading the the untiled texture to your base directory, so it should be there ready for you once you read this, it's called africaSupermap.zip and is in jpg format.

Sorry that I've kept you waiting Diego

~Nat~

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Diego Lozano
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posted 10-09- 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nat,
Sadly, it is not there but, I'm more worried about your health man! Take care of yourself first. It sounded like it was a bear uploading it maybe Sv could put it up for me to d/l. Sv... you listening?
WUTG,
That idea sounds great. I could wip that up in no time. I'd still like a mostly jungle terrain that we could use in the meanwhile. Let me get this done, or at least painted and I'll get you your islands.

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 10-10- 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds good to me!

One 'Pacific Island' terrain

One 'Pacific Land' terrain.

soooooppper! best of both worlds!

p.s. Nat, as a qualified First Aider....look after your health! Screw it up now, and you could end up paying for it in the future!
SDOE is a GAME....it can wait a day or two.

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Nat
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posted 10-10- 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego, go to http://www.aol.com and download/install AIM, then mail me with the name you create for yourself, then I'll look for you online and send it through via AIM, it's a wicked program and very easy to use as Razer will tell you, it came in very very handy when we're working on the A10 together, and I'm sure we can make use of this in the future.

To be honest, I'd recommend everyone getting it, especially the builders here, we can chat, host chat room, transfere all types of files etc very easily without taking forever posting messages back and forth here and looking for somewhere to upload big files cause they can't be mailed, AIM is perfect and much much easier to use than that crappy ICQ thing.

Let me know Diego

~Nat~

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Nat
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posted 10-10- 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, forgot to mention... get this....

Went to the doctors yesterday right cause of the problems I've been having, told him the whole story, espicailly the part about the Lucozade (you'll know this if your a brit) that I drunk, I drunk a 1/4 of a small bottle of it and nearly collapsed within 5 mins, it's full of Glucose and since I hadn't had any problems for ages though it would be ok.. obviously it wasn't, I was messed up for a couple of days from it and had to drink loads of water to "thin" it down in my system.. anyway, like I said, I told the doc all about this and other things, and guess what, I have to go back in 2 WEEKS for a blood test, shit I guess that means I can eat and drink what I want till then huh since I obviously don't have a life threatening condition.. wankers

Anyway, no worries guys, I'm watching my sugar intake now, just feel worn out alot recently thats why I've been pretty quiet this last week, sleeping to much.. lol I'll be fine, aint I always but thanks for the words guys, it's good to have people care in my rather small world here

~Nat~

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Private Roger
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posted 10-10- 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Private Roger   Click Here to Email Private Roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nat

Glad your o.k. We love SDOE, but we....er.....um....well we like you too.

Take care of yourself buddy.

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