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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-21- 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else going to this fantastic airshow in San Diego, CA area? http://www.miramarairshow.com/index.html

Besides the incredible Blue Angels in their F/A-18 Hornets, their C-130 Hercules "Fat Albert" will be doing a JATO (Jet-Assisted Take Off... rockets really). This is something I've ALWAYS wanted to see, and the cool part is it'll be doing this at dusk! Should be very very cool. Check this out... demos of the Harrier, A-10, B-2, F-117, F/A-18 both Blue Angels and regular types, Hawker Hunter, Warbird Salute to Veterans of the Korean War, P-51 Mustang, F-4U Corsair, F-6 Hellcat and F-8 Bearcat, also F-86 Sabre Jet and Russian Mig-17s... and more. They'll be having not only a daytime show but an evening show as well. Twilight Show they call it with many cool things from 5:30 - 9:00 PM.

October 14 and 15th, 2000.

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 09-21-2000).]

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Snickers
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posted 09-21- 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ask me twice, I'll go (Mrs Snickers too...)

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JT
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posted 09-21- 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fighter Squadroners meet by the Stang at 2:00 PM!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-21- 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, well alrighty then. Seriously JT I hope you can make it. Snickers, are you in Los Angeles?

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Razer
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posted 09-21- 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
being in Alabama, i don't get to go to the good shows.

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Jeeves
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posted 09-21- 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was able to catch the show back in '93 when I was on base for an internship back in my tree-hugging reasearch days Some of my fondest memories there were being in a canyon just at the end of one of the runways and having Tomcats, Hornets, Hawkeyes, and a couple choppers come in for landings. Thanks God for the earmugs they gave me

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Snickers
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posted 09-21- 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, not LA. I'm in the Inland Empire (like you).... Just North of Lake Elsinore....

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Diego Lozano
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posted 09-21- 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great! I think I'll go and fight the traffic down there again. Looking foward to seeing you guys!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-21- 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm planning on all day Saturday. I'm not sure if my wife and son will go yet. She's not big on being out in the sun all day, esp looking at airplanes. Get's board pretty easy. Plus she's well into her second pregnancy so...

But I know even if I go it alone it'll be a day not soon forgotten. It'd be nice to meet some of you guys!

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robert s
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posted 09-21- 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robert s   Click Here to Email robert s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of JATO's

1996 Darwin Winner (JATO)
The Arizona Highway Patrol came upon a pile of smoldering metal embedded into the side of a cliff rising above the road at the apex of a curve. The wreckage resembled the site of an airplane crash, but it was a car. The type of car was unidentifiable at the scene. The lab finally figured out what it was and what had happened.

It seems that a guy had somehow gotten hold of a JATO unit (Jet Assisted Take Off - actually a solid fuel rocket) that is used to give heavy military transport planes an extra "push" for taking off from short airfields. He had driven his Chevy Impala out into the desert and found a long, straight stretch of road. Then he attached the JATO unit to his car, jumped in, got up some speed and fired off the JATO!

The facts as best as coould be determined are that the operator of the 1967 Impala hit JATO ignition at a distance of approximately 3.0 miles from the crash site. This was established by the prominent scorched and melted asphalt at that location. The JATO, if operating properly, would have reached maximum thrust within 5 seconds, causing the Chevy to reach speeds well in excess of 350 mph and continuing at full power for an additional 20-25 seconds. The driver, soon to be pilot, most likely would have experienced G-forces usually reserved for dog-fighting F-14 jocks under full afterburners, basically causing him to become insignificant for the remainder of the event. However, the automobile remained on the straight highway for about 2.5 miles (15-20) seconds before the driver applied and completely melted the brakes, blowing the tires and leaving thick rubber marks on the road surface, then becoming airborne for an additional 1.4 miles and impacting the cliff face at a height of 125 feet leaving a blackened crater 3 feet deep in the rock.

Most of the driver's remains were not recoverable; however, small fragments of bone, teeth and hair were extracted from the crater and fingernail and bone shards were removed from a piece of debris believed to be a portion of the steering wheel.


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Congradulations Pete on your 2nd

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 09-21- 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Man you guys get some cool shows down in the states.

We have one here every year but I find most of the modern jets boring.

The only planes I liked in this past one were 2 104 starfighters, It was just cool to see them flying together I had never seen them in the air before since they have been out of service for so long. They are the essence of speed.

The other cool planes was a guy in a biplane doing acrobatics. Freaking cool he was "JUST" off the lake (they perform over the lake here) So close that the smoke he was laying down was resting on the water and I was scared he was going to hit.

Then there was a 5 man team in prop planes doing acrobatics. Very cool but not as cool as the bipe.

There was also some US paras, cutting chutes and free falling for a couple before opening backup and stuff but again it pales compared to the bipe.

I think I will have to travel south to see some ww2 birds in the air.

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Snickers
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posted 09-21- 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, we shoot for Staurday and meet by the 'Stang at 2:00. Is that the plan...?

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-22- 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd think it may be smarter to meet earlier in the day. We don't know what the schedule is yet, as far as times for each demo. I'd hate to have to be at a set meeting just as some kick butt demo was about to start.

I kinda think JT was kidding anyways since he still is living in PA But maybe near the front gate at a certain time? Who knows. I know I have a 3 hour drive just to get there. We'll figure something out.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-22- 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terry,

We could even hook up before this airshow just for the heck of it. I'll have to find out where you live and just how far away you are. Maybe we could meet at the Palm Springs Museaum or something and this time I won't forget my camera

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Mighty
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posted 09-22- 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, that's a well-known urban legend. Funny story, though. Here's a guy who says he's the orginator of the story http://www.cardhouse.com/rocketcar/ROCKIT.HTML A pretty good yarn, itself. From the wording on http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/uls/impala.html I can't tell if they're saying the second story is a myth, too.

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Loco
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posted 09-22- 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loco   Click Here to Email Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh...I would like to Go But itīs so far and expensive to me :-(
You are lucky guys. Enjoy It to me.

Loco

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robert s
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posted 09-22- 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robert s   Click Here to Email robert s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mighty, yea I know the story is an urban legend, but it is awful funny. Thanks for the links. You can check out www.urbanlegends.com too for a new set of stories too.

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