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ArgonV
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posted 09-18- 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well folks, I'm happy with it enough to release it! Be sure to read the readme file for the installation procedure and Tip/Pointers on how to release it successfully.

I must give thanks to Jedi, for it was his dam buster bomb idea that inspired me to do this. And I must give thanks to Nat for he fixed the spinning plane problem and provided me with the torpedo model. Last but not least I must give thanks to Aladar who tested the early stages of the torpedo for me.

Enjoy and PLEASE give me feedback.

You can find it under the Fixes/Small Projects section of my page.

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Aladar
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posted 09-18- 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Argon, for some reason the torpedo blows up pn impact with water again, I just checked the loasout, and everything is in order.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-18- 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Say wha? Works fine for me. Try doing another run and make sure you go 200-205 at 35-40 feet level. It will explode if the angle is off. I'll do a another install of SDOE and see if that clears up anything. Maybe there's something I missed.

Sample of Beaufighter loadout:

(ordHardpoint (ordName 'TorpedoMount ordClass 'Bomb ordModel 'gerTorp ordWeight 2000 ordWarhead 0 ordNumber 1 ordRippleDelay 200))

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Nat
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posted 09-18- 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the version I twealed worked fine, I've not got the release version yet though.

More than glad to have been able to help ::bowing slihtly::

~Nat~

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Aladar
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posted 09-18- 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Figured it out, I dropped it at a wierd angle, wow this thing really is like a real torp.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-18- 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew.... you had me scared there for a min. Aladar. LoL Yeah it mimics a real torpedo with a few flaws. One of which Nat has made known to me..............

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ArgonV
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posted 09-18- 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any input guys? (Besides you Nat... But go ahead anyhows Thanks for testing BTW!)

Does this thing work for yall? Of course practice makes perfect. But I would like to know what people think and have discovered with it.

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Eyes
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posted 09-19- 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ArgonV here is a tough one for you... Can the AI make torpedo runs? If not how are we mission builders make missions with the new and great weapon like this torpedo ?
Also how many torpedos do you need to sink a ship ?
PS Thanks for this great weapon, all that contributed...

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ArgonV
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posted 09-19- 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only way I can see AI making torpedo runs is if you set them to bomb at a really low altitude... Ive never tried it however.

Now as to how many torpedoes you need.... depends on the ship. Some sink in with 1, some sink with 2, others like the Scharnhorst sink with 5-6. I know the Akagi sinks with 2.

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Condor
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posted 09-19- 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condor   Click Here to Email Condor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ArgonV,

Great work on the torpedo. It is a great addition to sdoe.

For us loadout.ppf challenged folks, can you please post a section of the loadout with all the changes to allow the torpedo to work.

Thanks,
Condor out

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spin
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posted 09-19- 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second that request

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ArgonV
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posted 09-19- 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! No problem.

At the start of the weapons loadouts, there are a bunch of loadout options in quotes.

Example: (ordLoadouts "Guns" "HeavyBombing" "Blanks")
To this list add "Torpedo" as an option.

Now to make a whole new Torpedo loadout, copy a bomb loadout and paste it at the bottom. Make sure to include the 3 ending braces. Now at the start of this copied bomb loadout.... look for something like this: (ordLoadHeavyBombing

HeavyBombing is the name of the load option. Delete the HeavyBombing part and add Torpedo so it reads like this now: (ordLoadTorpedo

Then, in that now new Torpedo loadout, look for a line that reads: ordName '(Whatever the bomb mount is)

After that, delete everything behind it and paste this:

ordClass 'Bomb ordModel 'gerTorp ordWeight 2000 ordWarhead 0 ordNumber 1 ordRippleDelay 200))

Then save and exit. Now open up a mission in the mission editor and select the Torpedo loadout.

If youve tried all of this and still cant get it to work, e-mail me the loadout.ppf file and I'll be more than happy to fix it up for ya.

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Eyes
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posted 09-20- 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A thing to note for the torpedo... Some of them were , err whats the word, "bad", never exploded after hitting the target ( duds maybe? lol sorry if i spelled it wrong...)
Wondering if you can model this, giving it a random character...
Just an idea...

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ArgonV
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posted 09-20- 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eyes. The reason why some of the torpedos in WWII were duds was because 1. They had a faulty triggering mechanism 2. They didnt have enough time to arm and 3. They hit at the wrong angle.

Right now with the v1 and v2 torpedos (v2 to be released soon after it is smoothed and more people have inputed their thoughts on it) number 2 and number 3 reasons work. If my torpedo hits at a wrong angle it wont detonate and if it doesnt have enough room to arm (actually, it doesnt really arm, the obHits has to lower.... but it acts like it didnt have enough time to arm) it wont detonate. And if your drop it at too high a speed and a wrong angle, it will blow up on impact.

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Eyes
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posted 09-20- 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, browser didnt show my lats message and Argov's reply !
Rgr that Argov ! Sounds good to me, just had a thought and wanted to share it with you guys...
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ArgonV
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posted 09-20- 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, that's what I said above.

"If my torpedo hits at a wrong angle it wont detonate and if it doesnt have enough room to arm (actually, it doesnt really arm, the obHits has to lower.... but it acts like it didnt have enough time to arm) it wont detonate."

Those torpedos that did not explode were duds because of these factors: 1. They had a faulty triggering mechanism 2. They didnt have enough time to arm and 3. They hit at the wrong angle.

"Dud" is the correct word. A dud basicly means something that didnt work for whatever reason.

Also with my torpedo, if you drop it at the wrong angle it will sometimes just go under and not explode. This is a VERY rare occasion with the v2 torpedo. Ive only had it happen to me 3 times so far.

P.S. Have you played with the released version of the torpedo? If so and you have not experienced a dud torpedo yet, you are one darned good shot.

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