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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-17- 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok it's posted on my site. Follow the readme file and make additions to your keyboard.inp file if you haven't tried this plane yet.

Changes this version...
Update for Alpha 3 (Sept 17, 2000)

The only change in this release is the flight characteristics. You can open the plane in OPS and see how I did it.
I basically used the control stick from the cockpit, put it in the center of the plane with an 800 pound weight (a little flat square) at the end of it so when the stick moves any direction the weight would go that way also to get the response better. This worked well at times when the nose would start going too high, to bring it back down.

Also I've reworked the fuselage and it still needs a few tweaks but I wanted to get this out for any opinions you may have for the overall model. Once the fuselage tweaking is done it's texture time!

A quick note, for who knows why, there are occasions where you may try to do a vertical take off from the very beginning of a runway. I've found that going forward a little bit first (say 10-20 feet) keeps the thing flying more straight up. If you don't do this sometimes the plane wants to tip back on it's tail. It won't always but sometimes you may see this happen. I think it has to do with the end of the runways being a bit sloped... I'm not sure though. Enjoy it, it's only gonna get better from here on out.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-17- 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also this one has the much improved canopy. If you've already DL'd the Harrier than you only need the SM zip, otherwise get the full one. And if you have the old F-15C Harrier (my original release of this plane) then delete that one since it may cause problems with the included mission. If you are feeling stumped by anything just make a new mission for it but hopefully you won't have to.

Ok, everyone should get the SM only zip now. I just did some more updates to the fuselage. Just extract it to your FS/Media/aircraft/Harrier folder. Throughout the coming days I'm going to be updating it often as I want to be finished with it and move on to other projects.

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 09-17-2000).]

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-17- 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alrighty then!

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ArgonV
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posted 09-17- 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LoL Pete. No one has said anything. As soon as I get this torpedo buisness out of the way, I'll fly your great jet!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-17- 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe, I know. Kinda quiet 'round here today.

Thanks

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Jaguar
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posted 09-17- 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As soon as I finish unpacking and figure out what the #ell's going on around here, I'm gonna give the harrier a test flight. I have been dieing to fly it ever since I left! She looks beautiful Pete!

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Loco
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posted 09-17- 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loco   Click Here to Email Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete,

Congratulations! The Harrier is pretty good.
I'm impressed with all plane: cockpit, glasses, pilot head (controlled by the joystick) and VTOL features.

Thanks for your job.

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Aladar
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posted 09-17- 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Pete, I cant figure this out, this thing seems to be more of a SVTOL (slanted/semi Vertical Take Off and Landing) And I dont really see any difference, could you explain again the changes?

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-17- 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you hit shift-V your nozzles will be at about 75% and you will do a semi-rolling take-off. If you ONLY hit V they'll be at 90% and with slight forward stick upon applying power you should go straight up and slightly forward. This thing does NOT like sitting still or even reverse. It's only sitting on 2 engines thrust on the wings and doesn't have four streams of air coming down like real Harriers do. I've tried but it's just too difficult to get right. This is as close as I could come with OP.

So I suppose you are right, there is a forward-ness needed to keep it flying but it can fly very slow and still is fun I think.

ANYONE who wants to is welcome to tweak away and try to get it flying better. That'd be great! So if you Aladar or anyone else want to experiment please do (you know with adding additional engines and so on).

I basically added a joystick with an 800 pound block attached to one end. It's sticking UP from the center of the plane, and when you move the joystick forward for example, this block (image it's sitting up over your actual joystick you are flying with) moves at the same time and proportionally to your inputs forward over the airplane to basically add weight towards the nose so it will respond quicker and tilt the nose down a little bit, then NOT having that extra weight there. I was trying to achieve a better sense of balance and control, especially when flying at a hover and gaining some speed. Before the nose would eventually pitch up and you'd fall backwards into the ground. This way the nose has more weight with the stick forward and it flys better. But it also works when trying to slow down in a hover, it'll tilt the plane backwards (and to the sides for turning as well).

Thanks Jag and Loco

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 09-17-2000).]

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Condor
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posted 09-19- 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condor   Click Here to Email Condor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pete

This jet is great fun! Thanks.

No critizism here - it is an alpha after all, just curious, do you know why the screen image shakes slightly to the left and right? I ask only because I see a similar effect with the f4u - although much less noticeable.

Thanks,
Condor out

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Pete Hawk
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posted 09-19- 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I thought I knew how to fix it (removing the brakes) but it didn't take care of it. The problem seems to come from the wingtip wheels (at least on the ground). If what you mean is in the F3 follow view when flying slow, I have no idea.

Glad you like it though

Just found out last night that my little fix (that weight idea) has ruined the AI flying it I just tried a mission where two were suppposed to take off and then never did. The just slowly drove down the runway. Bummer.

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 09-19-2000).]

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