posted 09-10- 10:55 AM               

btw, just an idea, cuz the more I visit the site, the more it looks messy...

li'l out

posted 09-10- 01:27 PM               

So, how does it get decided that a plane is to be upgraded (IMHO)? Usually by the love of one or more plane builders/modifiers, sometimes based on what people like to fly on line. The more often its used in missions the more likely it is to be kept up to date.... Lastly, by request on this forum.

Its a time consuming labor of love as I am finding out. It involves many disciplines (some of which I have) and much knowlege (most of which I lack).

So why keep the beta's? Because they are fun. And thats the whole point. (Stepping off of soapbox and clearing throat )

posted 09-10- 01:42 PM               

I have raised issues over ongoing Betas before, and I agreee with some points. Planes which get started should be brought up to a level where they are 'finished' products, which operate reliably and don't cause crashes. AI should be able to use them for missions, and they should be basically 'all there'.

What is happening with planes like the P51 is something different. They are taking a finished plane and added new features and generally pushing back the boundaries. This is a GOOD THING. Also, if we had to wait until every detail was done, FM, latest DM features, and everything anyone could think of, we would never get to see any new planes ever!

There is a happy medium when planes like the P39, Pe2 etc. get released as Beta planes, but are playable as they stand. Since there release they have been improved. What I DONT agree with is planes being released in a clearly unfinished state and NEVER GETTING IMPROVED. I won't point fingers, but there are planes I wish I'd never tried, coz they just weren't ready for release.

I've learnt my lessons however, and necer dive straight in. I wait for posts, and then see what the general consensus of opinion is after the initial rush of enthusiasm, and if a plane doesn't measure up, delete it. When all is said and done, if you don't like the state of a plane, or can see obvious problems, tell the builder, and wait until it's sorted. Alternatively, if the builder hasn't the time or inclination, why not take it on board yourself....(ask first of course)

As far as standards go, the only words that cover it are

PLANE PACK

(opens can of worms....steps back)

posted 09-10- 08:31 PM               

Dauntless
Bristol Scout
P39 (Both versions)
SE5a
P80b
F4F-4
Fokker Dr1a
Fokker DVIII
Hurricane
Sopwith Camel
Morane Saulnier N

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