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Jeeves
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posted 09-08- 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK--- I tried a search and had trouble narrowing it down---so whoever was working on the mission editor targets that aren't recognized on the map (i.e.-- the radar stations, munitions factory, etc)--I forget who had the list of them all--- did you get it working to the point where the AI recognizes these targets? Please contact me via e-mail--- I need this info for a new campaign...which one you ask? Well--- not giving anything away here...but it involves Dover radar stations and Stuka dive bombers Maybe I can get a He-111 in there before I am done...oh Bryan

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graymon
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posted 09-09- 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for graymon   Click Here to Email graymon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds good to me...............

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Moose_EAF322
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posted 09-09- 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moose_EAF322   Click Here to Email Moose_EAF322     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeeves..

I made a few missions with Stuka, but they attacked/bombed to low and all crashed.

When i set the bombing alt higher ( 6000 feet ) the problem is desame, the Stuka's go lower then they should be.

Can i set for divebombing or what is the best thing to do in this case ?

Moose

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Jeeves
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posted 09-09- 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AFAIK the AI never dive bomb-- only level bomb. But I have mine set to 6000 and they seem to do fine---what I do notice is that they don't at all take off...and for landing all they seem to do is go in circles until they hit a hill. Hopefully, mposis will work on this or allow someone else to tweak it. It is a great looking plane and a welcome addition. Other than the taking off/landing-- it does a great jobin following waypoints and bombing. I still need help with my original question---who did this work with the targets?

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Eyes
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posted 09-10- 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Jeeves can help you on that, dont have a clue
For whats worth, I am makin g a Rhine land winter campaign for the russians ! Did first 10 missions and keep going !

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manock
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posted 09-11- 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It Was I! - Manock!

And sadly no AI didnt recognize text edited target designations. A little red diamond does appear on the map over the target but planes blissfully ignore it. Had to settle for the dummy unit method renamed as a Uboat or a Radar Station pioneered by yourself I believe. I dragged out the only two missions have written, Reggie Hunters, and Das Boot Pens to see if they worked under 5.3b which they didnt to my obsessive perfectionist standards so just happen to have been tweaking them around lately. The U Boat Pens all blow up when you toss a BIC Lighter over the side of your Mosquito on top of one submarine, and The Focke Wolfes have become way too touchy about bombing anything less than a major attention grabber like a klaxon or a land parked carrier which kinda takes away from the quiet lay low premise of the mission. When is 5.4 coming out? The FockeWolfes need their balls plastered back on, and wont be writing anything new until then.

Take it your working on a Fantasy Campaign since Battle of Brittain Stukas had no idea what those odd radio towers were.

In return for giving you the bad news - I havent tried your campaigns under SimFiles because dont know where to get all the add ons but admit to not trying too hard. See profile energy level. Please list the web addresses where they can be found. Or are they part of the add on packs, and just dont know it? Thanks in advance for the reply.

Nose Guns Irrigated And Ready to Discharge
Manock

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 09-11- 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do the SM files for these have a 'bomb target' model in them?
The airfields do, and I would guesss this tells the AI where to drop it's bombs.
If you add this to the targets, I don't see why the AI shouldn't have a go at them.

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Eyes
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posted 09-11- 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eyes   Click Here to Email Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more thing, with the mistel 3 & 1, the AI can not domb at all...Any ideas?

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Mr Bigglesworth
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posted 09-11- 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Bigglesworth   Click Here to Email Mr Bigglesworth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know nobody likes a smartass but... Point of information for Manock.

No fantasy.

Famously, the Ventnor Radar (Isle of Wight) was bombed (by Stukas) on 12 August 1940 and was off the air for 3 weeks.

On the same day Pevensey, Rye (40 bombs in 4 minutes) and Swinggate Radars were bombed.

I don't know if the Luftwaffe knew exactly what they were bombing, but I guess they thought the masts were not there to display 'Welcome to England: Please Fly Carefully' signs.

Jeeves's idea is indeed based in reality.

Mr B

[This message has been edited by Mr Bigglesworth (edited 09-11-2000).]

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ArgonV
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posted 09-11- 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll try to get the AI to drop the Ju88 on the Mistels. What is the command I should use for the DOF? (The drop bomb command is what I need. I dont know how to enter it however for the oscCmd) If someone could tell me that command, the AI may drop the Ju88.

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Whirlwind
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posted 09-11- 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A theory to get them to dive bomb is to set the target height at the first bomb waypoint about 5000ft lower than what the previous one was, and then have the end of bomb run waypoint back at the original height. If all else fails, you could reclass a bomb as a rocket (which the v65 patch AI can actually use) but don't put a rocket motor on it.

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Raider
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posted 09-11- 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider   Click Here to Email Raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ArgonV, you can use this for a DOF command "oscCmd 'inpWeaponsRelease" This will activate the DOF. However I don't think this will release the Ju88 using a DOF unless;

Option 1. Use the DOF to activate an airpoint to break/detach and call a function to detach the Ju88.

Option 2. Give the attachment point of the Ju88 the properties of a bomb " obProto CBomb" You may need to use the name of that attachment object in the loadout.ppf. When you activate bomb release the two planes should seperate.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-11- 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Option 1 is what the Mistel currently uses. (Breaking DOF) The AI cant do it however. What Im trying now is... To have the Ju88 as a bomb that is attached to the Bf-109 in OPS. Then have the command that releases the bomb routed to move the DOF into the airstream so it will break and thus the Ju88 will be able to be released by the AI. However, I cannot get the inpWeaponsRelease for oscCmd to work.

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Jeeves
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posted 09-11- 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heya guys...

Thanks Mr. B....I thought I was going crazy there- I knew I had read some reports as to the Stukas hitting radar towers. I do tend to do a lot of research before I start my campaigns--- if you ever look at the dates, you'd see they are accurate (Ex-- Africa1-- Operation Torch-- correct date...etc)

manock--

Thanks for your reply...but it was someone else too who was working with these...they even sent me an e-mail with the list of non-specific targets that could be edited in (it got lost in a hard drive switch). I believe they even got it to work- but I can't for the life of me remember who it was! As far as the renaming a tank to the target method, I must give credit where it is due-- Jaguar first presented the idea to me--- and I flew with it.

For downloads to go along with my campaigns, I have no idea where to get them all-- but in my read-mes, I usually list what you need and if I know- who made it. You could always do a search here for it.

Now--- will someone own up to it...Raider seems to be ringing a bell- but he may have been the one to send me the fuel capacity info...pretty soon, I'll just give up and go back to my renaming method!!

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manock
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posted 09-11- 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to see you can all pull together to attack the rogue. How brave of you Biggles. Such solidarity. How Common. Dont forget to reply to this post. Always try to keep up with one more reason why sheep like you dont like me. Oh, and I enjoy stealing your countryman's name as my own. Keep rewarding me.
Manock

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manock
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posted 09-11- 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember that post too as being very lenghty but still remember after all being attempted and analyzed, new targeting methods such as adding a "destruction factor" line didnt work. A noble effort that needed to be expored but one that yielded no usable results. I remember it being a regular poster who made the list. But who am I to dissuade an original content provider from trying. Hopefully I'm wrong. Good Luck To You!
Manock
Talented Flyers who dont feel threatened by me can please ignore the above post.
Manock

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Jeeves
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posted 09-11- 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTF is your problem manock? Are you upset that you are wrong? Do a little homework before you post--- this board is full of people who are knowledgable about that period in the past-- call us geeks if you will, but this is our way of remembering those who fought and died over 50 years ago.

I work hard to make these campaigns to a certain level of accuracy and strive for a product that I am proud of. Fantasy my ass--- go grab a book and look it up!

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Mr Bigglesworth
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posted 09-11- 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Bigglesworth   Click Here to Email Mr Bigglesworth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Manock. I'm not looking for a fight here. I'm the most polite of posters. It was just a point of information about the radars. I can't build planes. I'm humble about that. But I know a bit of history. That's my feeble contribution to this great community. And as for you being a rogue, I had no idea. I wasn't aware that your previous posts had made you any sort of a bad boy in the group. Is this your label of yourself? I was just adding to the pool of knowledge. It wasn't a personal attack. I had no sense that there was a conspiracy against you. And I don't mind you stealing my countryman's name (Mannock, I think it was). I really don't. But it is strange that you should call me a sheep because I didn't even know there was a flock. No need for you to apologise. Honestly. We live in stressful times. I forgive you.

Best wishes

Mr B

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ArgonV
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posted 09-11- 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Time to start something in Flame Wars?

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manock
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posted 09-11- 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwwwwwww - lets see one guy gets his pet nun to write a post, and the other his high school coach. You guys are losers. Cant stand the competition, refuse to take criticism or praise - just everyone else keep out, and we'll nitpick you until you leave. Too bad. I will have the last say just to show how pathetic you kids are. I will live the life of what the United States pretends to be even if Im the only one. Face it. You cant beat me without cheating.
Join your ficticious social classes raise you neighborhood banners. You lost before you even played the game. An inescapable, exposed, transparent fantasy.
Jeeves! What a laugh! You're not even close! You are a fantasy. And who modeled these planes? Amazing how they actually wriggle around in the air. Now thats aerodynamic modeling! More fantasy.
Keep up the mutual masterbation. Its about the only way you guys are ever going to get off. Cause your not getting off by pretending to fuck me. You can take your miserable manners, you're total lack of talent, and spooge all over this utter failure of a sim, and call it sex if you want. But no one is fooled by you, and your sad attempts to find fullfillment in a technician's world. You just apply provided for knowledge in an unimagnitive way, and even rankle at the suggestion at maybe attempting something creative and new. Grab a broom and a dust bin. Its the closest your ever going to get to a Jeeves. You sorry, linear, limited, dribble of a man. Goes for you to Gibbles or whatever your self manipulating handle is.
Manock

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 09-11- 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Jeeves, I think it was spin that was talking about that.

might want to contact him about it.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-11- 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROFLMAO! Now that was a class act reply! (Just about all that was, was an act) manock, I have some short, but very helpful life tips for you. Lighten up some, try not to think everyone is conspiring aginst you, and for gods sake, get some mannars.

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manock
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posted 09-11- 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Told You - Last Word

Keep It Up Losers!

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ArgonV
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posted 09-12- 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But you are ever so wrong my over egoed friend...

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manock
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posted 09-12- 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tsk Tsk You guys must be exhausted from all that post orgasmic fatigue.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-12- 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Im sooo worn out.......

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manock
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posted 09-12- 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey - What did I say about being last.

Damn It!

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 09-12- 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spot the man who can't spell 'Flame Wars'....

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manock
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posted 09-12- 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anal Retentive Nitwit!

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manock
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posted 09-12- 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey - wheres the 5.5 billion oppressive response?

Im Gumby Damn It!

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manock
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posted 09-12- 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And how are my spooge babies this morning?

Dont stop now. Come on. Think of it. Decades of harassment ending now? Unthinkable. Unbelievable. Inconceivable!

Losers.

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Jeeves
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posted 09-12- 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh gee...sorry. Unlike you manny- I don't hover at this site 24 hours a day anxiously awaiting replies to my posts...I have a job. As a teacher, I help kids avoid becoming ignorant pissants such as yourself. As far as replying to the rest of your drivel-- I never intended for this to turn into a flame post. I simply requested some help, but it seems that I won't be getting it as we all know where this thread is headed. It is a shame that the first time one of my threads tops 30 posts, that half of the replies belong to some half-witted crack baby. Have the last word if you like-- I won't waste anyore time replying to this thread.

Spanky-- thank you for being one of the few here in this thread that actually provided some usefulness-- I will try to contact spin.

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manock
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posted 09-12- 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manock   Click Here to Email manock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny - I do, and will continue to do so. Jackass.

Im actually embarrased I let myself get dragged into your sick little world, but now that Im here, here for the duration.

Keep it up. Sociopath.

Manock

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