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Zurawski
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posted 08-25- 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
F-86F Version Alpha v.2

This is a small update that really is at best a refinment and funtion update.

Things added, fixed, refined:

1.) DanW's "very cool" offical release skin.

2.) Airbrakes.

3.) Added neuances such as : Pitot tube on outboard wingtip, Low-speed stall fences on mid wing, Sensor added to fusalage near the jet-exhaust.

4.) Add gear-door holes and fixed gear timings.

5.) Half fixed the shadow. It seems to work fine on some surfaces and not others.

6.) Corrected the spelling of "SABRE".

7.) Added Cannon loadout for the Aussie fellas.

8.) Added drop-tanks.

Installation:

- Extract to separate directory with your extractor set to include subdirectories (recurse) then copy the entire media directory into you Fighter Squadron Directory.

AIRBRAKES - Make sure the following line is in your keyboard.inp file under "primary flight controls", in your Fighter Squadron directory.

cmdDiveBrakesToggle = X (or what ever keypress or Joystick button you wish)

DROPTANKS - Make sure the following line is added to your Startup.ppf file.

"aircraft/weapons/86Tank.sm"

The tanks are offically seen by FS as bombs. This was done so the weight of tanks would affect the FM correctly and the AI would drop the tanks to engage. These are released just like one would loose their primary bomb ordinace. (enter by default)

The FM and FM work has proven to be far more daunting than I imagined. That said ... There have been some minor "enhancments" to both.

I would really appreciate some testing of the FM and the DM and some specific feedback.

NOTE The FM still exhibits the dreaded "tail-whip into a dead mans tailslide" ... This is a know FM bug that quite honestly has me puzzled.


DOWNLOAD

This is simply and update so it does not contain any mission or stuff like that if you haven't downloaded the initial release I suggest doing so and then copying the update over it.

F-86F Alpha v.1 (initial release): http://zursfilepile.webjump.com/F86F_Av1.zip

F-86F v.2 Update (Update): http://zursfilepile.webjump.com/media.zip

[This message has been edited by Zurawski (edited 08-25-2000).]

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Tailslide
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posted 08-25- 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi Zur, did I send you that f86 with the 'tailslide of doom' fixed? Most of the issues were in the settings for the fuselage airfoil..

TS

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Zurawski
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posted 08-25- 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... Tail,

Yup I have that one ... It's part of my "current working build" ... Problem was it was just "TOO" damn twitchy and skittish with you fix ... I have to find some sort of "middle-ground"

Do you really think I'd forsake your efforts?

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Zurawski
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posted 08-25- 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ATTENTION! ...

Almost for got!

The engine now has "spool up" modelled. you'll notice that when you fire-wall the throttle you don't get immediate engine responce. This is because early jet engines has slow "spool" responce ...

You will particularly notice this when starting cold on the runway ... it'll take about 10 seconds for the engine to respond to the throttle input.

So don't freak out if the jet sit's there a few seconds!

[This message has been edited by Zurawski (edited 08-25-2000).]

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ArgonV
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posted 08-25- 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a million! Flies much better, and has kewl new features! Im a happy happy camper.

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ArgonV
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posted 08-26- 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zur, a few helpfull suggestions/comments.

The FM is MUCH MUCH better, and the new added features are great! But I did some speed tests. The max speed of the F-86F Sabre was 656 mph at sea level. I find that yours breaks up around 400-550 mph depending if the fuel drop tanks are there or not. I hope you can fix this soon. We need a fast jet! Im sure the Sabre could also go at least 50 mph above the max speed safely with out breaking up.

Also, I did some small things to the Sabre... DOFing on the gear so they fold and un-fold in more of a sequenced, timed order. As it was, the gear unfolded and passed thru the gear bay doors and the gear holes didnt dissapear right after the gear closed. One of the tire brakes didnt work due to the name of that wheel being different than what was refrenced, so I changed that to have it working agian. I also increased the switch distance of the shadow so it could be seen further away and changed the loadout so flying without a drop tank was possible. Hope you dont mind.

P.S. Have the 2nd and 3rd detail LODs ben put in yet? I get pretty good frame rates and was wondering... With the detail LODs put in, I would get even better ones!

P.P.S. The engine spool up is a very good and realistic idea, but could it be toned down a tad? I find the jet starts to "sink" when starting out in mid air due to the lack of thrust for a few seconds.

[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 08-26-2000).]

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semmern
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posted 08-26- 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Sabre made a hole in the sound barrier in 1951!

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AGAS - 5
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posted 08-26- 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My only note so far .....

Don't arm them drop tanks.....if ya do then drop them......well, how can I put this...'the Mayor of Hiroshima said....what the f.... was that !'

Prob because it's an objBomb or whatever... but man does it go off....

Cheers,

AGAS 5

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Vau
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posted 08-26- 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vau   Click Here to Email Vau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eh Zur,

I really thought you were kidding when you wrote about those multilangual loadoud-file. Well, I was wrong

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