posted 08-09- 12:22 AM               

Whatever, that's my 33c and I don't care. Opinions are 3 for a buck tonight so hey, consider yourselves lucky, they're on sale.

Werner

posted 08-09- 12:52 AM               

One word, Yuck.

I personally like less hiquality graphics (ala SDOE) instead of more low quality (ala BOB). SOme people are the other way around though, and for them it COULD be a good game.

BTW we are getting there with the right planes for some good BOB stuff in SDOE. If i'm thinking right.

Hurri
Spitvb

bf110
bf109e
ju 88

What do we need now?

posted 08-09- 01:17 AM               

I am looking forward to it; just hope there aren't a bunch of keyboard commands just to get the planes in the air. Boring..

And hey, I got 2 more coming for my dollar!!

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posted 08-09- 02:21 AM            

He111 is needed too, but I believe Bryan Russell is working on one, so there's hope.

posted 08-09- 06:28 PM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Spanky the Mad Dog:
One word, Yuck.

What do we need now?

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Uhh, how about the formations of what appears to be about 100 aircraft in the air at once?!

Geez, look past the graphics.

Maury

posted 08-09- 07:11 PM               

FM's
Damage Model
Frame Rate
Readable instruments
Good AI
Large arena
Number of planes in the air
Campaigns
Patches
Graphics

Can anyone seriously argue with this order of importance.

posted 08-09- 08:37 PM               

I don't know, EAW's graphics are nothing to write home about, and yet the multiplayer isn't to hot either.

I would like to see a game that can have 16 to 20 online with a stable enviornment. I doubt we will see that, but I'll keep hoping.

posted 08-09- 11:07 PM               

I'm not graphics happy, there is alot more to a game the graphics.

What makes me mad is the way that 3 years down the road from SDOEs release some company brings out a game that has worse graphics and just more planes on the screen at once.

I'm not asking for better graphics but I don't want to take a step back just for more planes in the air. If its 3 years later then why can't we keep the eye candy and still get better graphics? Havn't computers improved at all?

And how much you want to bet that the minumum specs are higher then SDOEs?

Whats with that? Give me more planes and yes the min spec will be higher but don't step back in graphics AND raise the min spec.

Bjorn If you ask me it IS possible with a version of SDOE to put more planes in the air.

HOW? Well we could lower the graphics but thats not all there is to it. Cause even with simple planes SDOE seems to still need alot of power. Why is that? Well its either because SDOE isn't very optimized OR its that SDOE is doing alot more in the background that have nothing to do with graphics. Such as physics modeling and AI, FM and DM. So what exactly is BOB missing besides the graphics to get that many planes in the air? I bet theres somthing. I have a feeling the things that need to be tweaked with SDOE to get more planes in the air is.

Better code, And i'm not just talking about the graphics engine. Optimize some of the AI and physics stuff and you will free up more resorces for the graphics. which frees up more FPS and ends up in the form of more planes or better looking planes.

Better built planes, carefully built and tweaked for that fine line between FPS and eye candy.

Better use of LODs. I think we need to use more and switch them out sooner. Like instead of 3 lods, use 5. And have them switch out sooner.

Please don't think I'm bitching cause I'm not and I don't think that it is easy or even going to happen.

I'm just defending my position that we don't need to take a step back just to get more planes in the air.

We may not get as many as a couple hundred but We should be able to get WAY more then we are now.

Almost makes you want to start tweaking the switch in and lods again with some planes.

But I have found that even makeing all the planes only have the low level lod only helps you add a couple more. It doesn't help you after you add 10. Which means there is a problem with some AI, physics and such. Maybe an AI plane should have physics LODs. As in the computer doesn't pay as much attention to it, if its nowhere near you.

Boy thats a ramble. LOL

posted 08-10- 06:25 AM               

Yeah, I agree about SDOE and it's stability online. Except for some nagging little issues concerning ground unit damage, etc. SDOE is the nearest to being what I want a sim to be. Thats why I have haunted this place so long. Muhahahahahahaha!