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Aladar
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posted 08-05- 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew, today was great fun. I killed spitfires from the rear gunners position (Great Fun!!), did some work on the interior, added gunsight to pilots and gunners position. Did more work on the gear, and sent away the 110 to some eager painters! Here are some more pics.


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"Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar

Thats 24 times to see Disneys Dinosaur and counting!!

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ArgonV
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posted 08-05- 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aladar, kewl! Working guns and everything eh? Glad you decided to do this project. Who was doing the other Bf-110 BTW?

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Aladar
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posted 08-06- 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no Idea, but whoever it is better catch up!!

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darthbob
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posted 08-06- 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darthbob   Click Here to Email darthbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's superduper, but is the cockpit canopy too low.
and i think the nose was a bit rounder.
just one more thing, the left wheel is a bit slanted. you gave me a great panel texture but it doesn't work yet. does it need to be mapped or renamed etc.

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Razer
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posted 08-06- 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
about 5 people was working on the old one. Someone did the model, then ASH got it and was getting BBird to map it but he didn't know how. Then it was sent to me to map but that was before i learned how. Then it was sent to someone else and then lost. I got the model from ASH the other day and sent it to aladar, but i don't think he used it. thisone looks better then the one i looked over.

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ArgonV
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posted 08-06- 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Helpfull modeling tips: The canopy is too low. The tail plane should be back and up farther. The nose needs to be more round and the wings need roundness and angles to them. The engines also need to be moved up some and I fixed the slanted wheel and gun sticking out problem. Oh and the DOFs need repositioning but I know you knew that. I know your no where near done so no need to go there about the FM and DM. 3d model comes first. I like this plane ALOT! Even tho it is an alpha, its pretty darn fun for an alpha.

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ArgonV
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posted 08-06- 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. Aladar, I did the Hangar text, Picture and the Hangar Mission. I sent them your way.

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Aladar
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posted 08-06- 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comment overload, ARGHH!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the suggestions, the reason the wings arent rounded is because it makes it alot easier to split apart and map upper and lower wing surfaces. I think I'm gonna mess with the model later if ever. Thanks for the comment on the canopy. But, about the gun, whats wrong with it?? I've also got to send you guys a new sm and tell me which one you like better.

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"Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar

Thats 24 times to see Disneys Dinosaur and counting!!

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Razer
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posted 08-06- 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
might want to get this book if you really want this plane to kick a*s.

http://www.aviationusk.com/mags/magaerodet.html

These books are the best, i have one for my Ki-84. They have photos out the a*s, and plenty of cockpit photos plus in the back it has scale plans and photos of variants and everything you need to know about that plane. Your in luck, they have one for the Bf-110!

[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 08-06-2000).]

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ArgonV
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posted 08-06- 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On what you sent me yesterday, one of the top front guns wasnt as far out with the other one. I looked at my books, fixed the problem so thats no biggie.

P.S. The bottom of the left flap you cant see. Its like its missing.

[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 08-06-2000).]

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-06- 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does one get on the test list for this beauty? I'd love to try it out if possible

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Aladar
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posted 08-06- 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Argon, I know about the flap, Pete, check your mail.

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"Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar

Thats 24 times to see Disneys Dinosaur and counting!!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-06- 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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lfbpro
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posted 08-07- 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lfbpro   Click Here to Email lfbpro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Aladar check your mailbox camarad!

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Whirlwind
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posted 08-07- 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If only we could get the AI to react to tail gunner positions better. The AI never catches on that if they zip past the Lanc and slip in under the tail gunner's depression arc, they can nose up and take their time picking off parts. I am thinking the AI will react the same to the 110 and just fly behind and just above it - in tail gunner's territory. I guess I shouldn't complain since AI isn't easy to program.

I can't wait to do a 'Destroyer' loadout for it to unleash on a B-17 formation.

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Aladar
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posted 08-07- 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aladar   Click Here to Email Aladar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG, lfbpro, ITS FREAKING BEAUTIFUL, INFACT, I'M GONNA POST A PIC!!!!!

YOU ARE GREAT!! I'LL FIX A FEW PROBS AND SEND YOU A NEW FILE.

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"Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar

Thats 24 times to see Disneys Dinosaur and counting!!

[This message has been edited by Aladar (edited 08-08-2000).]

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ArgonV
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posted 08-07- 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG that is beautiful! I fixed the pilot bailing out problem. Im now working on the Tailgunner bailing out problem.

[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 08-07-2000).]

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darthbob
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posted 08-07- 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darthbob   Click Here to Email darthbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is beautiful. here's my dull effort. but is is my first ever skin.

pics at http://members.xoom.com/KMoynes/

they are named 1 and 2

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Razer
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posted 08-07- 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few schemes i could do, any chance of getting a copy?

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lfbpro
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posted 08-07- 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lfbpro   Click Here to Email lfbpro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Razer you have enough work like that keep your head down on the plane built let us work on the skin! ;-)

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Razer
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posted 08-07- 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fine i'll just keep touching up the P-39 release skin.

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lfbpro
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posted 08-07- 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lfbpro   Click Here to Email lfbpro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey darthbob!your skin is looking cool simple but very nice i like the brillant renderer ;-)
which prog are you using?
the engines fuel andoil marks are nice too ,second Q which filter?

go on

BTW so many 3D models give us some infos!

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darthbob
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posted 08-07- 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darthbob   Click Here to Email darthbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yo ifbpro. it is paintshop pro6.1. it is unregistered and the evaluation ran out today. being 15 i dont have a lot of money so it's gonna stay unregistered

as for the engine marks i used the retouch tool set it to darken RGB. and hey presto.

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darthbob
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posted 08-07- 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darthbob   Click Here to Email darthbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah the 3d models are all current projects. never done 3d stuff before so it is a learn as you go type thing.
they are F7F tigercat and b29 superfortress.
ac3d is again unregistered so all i can do is the 3d model, no ops stuff.

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Isatheprophet
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posted 08-08- 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isatheprophet   Click Here to Email Isatheprophet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi

Dam i wish i can get this sim

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Private Roger
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posted 08-08- 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Private Roger   Click Here to Email Private Roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isa

Give me your address, I will mail you the game.

BUT, I better not hear any crap about what you don't like about it. Keep that to yourself. If it's FREE you have not earned the right to complain.

PR=FC=

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