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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


These are the pics...here are my questions:

1. Is there a list or something, where the soviet radio calls are in (in cyrillic ?)

2. Is it possible to add 3 new soviet squadrons, which would use the new female calls I would try to get ?

3. Is someone interested in female voices /female squadrons in SDOE ?

4. What else should I know (sample rates etc.)


OK - thats all Let me know please !


LK

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I should add some more:

46th Guards Bomber Regiment - Plane U-2/Po-2

125th Guards Bomber Regiment - Planes Pe-2/U-2

586th Fighter Regiment - Planes several Yak types (1,3,7 (9) )

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I even would add a U-2:

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Jeeves
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posted 08-04- 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#2...well Laika- we do have one female squadron in--- 73rd Guards...but if you have any info, pictures, squadron insignia-- I can probably help you with #2...Zoy did most of the Soviet Nations work- but I know a thing or two about it if you get the radio calls done...I am one who is interested in female voices...as far as how to record them, gterl did Italy, Siggi did Japan, and a friend of Tail's did the Soviet Union so maybe ask one of them...

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charmstar
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posted 08-04- 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmstar   Click Here to Email charmstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to have female calls. I wonder if there is any way to make the calls you hear depend on squadron. Or, will you have to make a new "nation" called Russia (Women) or something?

I would also love to see a U-2. It looks significantly more simple than many WWII aircraft, and would add some flavor.

Of course, I'd even rather see a Polikarpov I-153 (hint, hint) :-)

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Flash Gordon
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posted 08-04- 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash Gordon   Click Here to Email Flash Gordon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty ignorant of Soviet aviation -

- what was the U-2 used for? Reconnaissance and the like?

Just curious...

...actually, for that matter, what was the Pe-2 used for? Sort of a schnellbomber or was it more of a fighter-bomber sort of deal?

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Tailslide
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posted 08-04- 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I would like to have the option of female voices too. I have the list of calls somewhere but I don't know of a female russian speaker.. well I do but I haven't talked to her in years. Do you know anyone Laika? Maybe one of the female pilots here would want to re-record the radio calls?

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FlashGordon and all other "ignorant" :

The U2/Po2 - light short range bomber, designed in the late 1920's by Nikolay Polikarpov's team. Bomb load up to 305 kg / 771 lbs. Some were armed with a small (riffle calibre) SchKAS MG in observers position, some not ! Parachutes were not used before summer 1944, the planes maximum speed was 80 mph and so it was very maneuverable and easy to land. "German pilots considered a hunt for a U-2 as important as an aircombat, and this forced soviet pilots to fly mainly at night...The U-2 inspired fear in the enemy, suddenly appearing over his position and dropping bombs."
The U2/Po2 was easily set on fire by either the antiaircraft or machine-gun tracers..

"On a mission near Novorossijsk, I had just dropped my bombs on the railway tracks and was turning away when I saw a German fighter, a Focke Wolf, flying toward me. I managed to dive and make a sideslip. Only pure chance saved me, and I escaped the enemy's fire.
But the aircraft behind me, piloted by Dusya Nosal, was caught by enemy fire. She was killed in her cockpit. Her navigator, Irina Kashirina, in the back cockpit knew how to fly and took over the controls, but the dead pilot had slumped forward over the control stick, and she was not able to use the controls. So she had to reach forward and hold the dead body by the collar with her left hand and control the aircraft with her right hand. The rough air over the Crimean hills almost caused her to crash, but she brought the plane with the body of the dead pilot back to the regimental airfield. She was in a state of shock." -- Major Mariya Smirnova, commander of the squadron (46th Guards Regiment), Hero of the Soviet Union


Data and information for the Pe-2 will come with the released version, just this story from the 125th Guards:

"...Yet another time we were shot down when I was making my fifth combat flight. We bombed successfully and were already descending when suddenly we were machine gunned into the left side of the aircraft. It cut through all of our systems and damaged the fuel tank and one engine. The plane had a black tail of engine smoke behind it, and we made an emergency landing at a Russian fighter airdrome. I had the same navigator that was with me when we crashed with Raskov. When we made the emergency landing, we discovered that the landing gear was damaged. The tires burned down completely from braking, and the wheels were twisted. The commander of the fighter squadron based there greeted us in 'pure Russian style' - using bad words - thinking it was a male crew. He didn't want us landing there when his fighter aircraft needed to come in to land..." -- Senior Lieutenant Galina Tenuyeva-Lomanova, pilot, commander of the formation


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Tailslide
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posted 08-04- 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Flash the pe-2 was originally designed as a high altitude fighter and was transformed into a high speed bomber that played a similar role as the mosquito. A huge number were built, over 10,000 if I remember right.

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tailslide - no I got no contacts to russian woman so far - I would simply post a "job-hiring" in a city-magazine, asking for native female russian speakers for a synchronisation job...

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Tailslide
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posted 08-04- 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sounds like a good way to meet girls Laika!


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bomber
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posted 08-04- 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bomber   Click Here to Email bomber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a Russian woman at work we talk every day.

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Flash Gordon
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posted 08-04- 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash Gordon   Click Here to Email Flash Gordon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...thanks for the info...too bad this didn't come up six months ago...lots of Russian (and lots of other Eastern European) women where I was before now but now...not too many.

Oh yeah, Laika - can I use that quotation that you stuck in with the info about the U-2? There's a 'Should women be allowed in the military?' thread going on right now in www.bombs-away.net and I'd like to use that quote as an example of how the Soviet Union had women fighting during WWII.

Flash

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Jerry
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posted 08-04- 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From every picture I have ever seen of Russian women pilots it looks like they all have big.....uh.....ah....hearts...that's it....big hearts.

Was it a job requirment or something? Did their planes need some sort of forward ballast? Or are all Russian women built like this?

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Flash Gordon
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posted 08-04- 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash Gordon   Click Here to Email Flash Gordon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laika 801:
FlashGordon and all other "ignorant" :

The U2/Po2 - light short range bomber...the planes maximum speed was 80 mph...

LK


Laika is this right? Are you sure you didn't drop a '1' in front of the 80? If this is true, then the U-2 was slower than most WWI planes! A PZL11C could fly circles around it! If it's top speed was only 80 mph - this makes me just sick to think about it - it would be completely helpless! Can't run, can't fight (with or without that rifle caliber MB)...just one slow moving target.

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FlashGordon - Yeah about 80 mph, three sources:

"Soviet Combat Aircraft of the second World War - V2/ Twin-Engined Fighters, Attack Aircraft and Bombers" -Yefim Gordon, Dmitri Khazanov

"A Dance with Death - Soviet Airwomen in World War II" - Anne Noggle

Russian Aviation Museum - http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/, by Alexandre Savine


..thats why they flew often at night and lost alot of pilots...

And Flash - I wont register to that other forum - please! Copy the stuff I wrote here and paste it there ! Some of them really don't know what they're talking about !

Thanks !

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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry - uhh - I really don't know what you're talking about - for me they look "normal" in all ways - just like a woman should look - uhhh ahhh I can't see the big ears you see -
However those pilots surely got big hearts, the bad thing is, the ones which are still alive, try to live from a very small pension, I mean their life is hard even today, but they dont give a sht - "war is war and life is life"...


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Jeeves
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posted 08-04- 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me know if you need help Laika...while it has been a while, I know the ins and outs of Nations pretty well...

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Flash Gordon
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posted 08-05- 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flash Gordon   Click Here to Email Flash Gordon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laika,

thanks for the go-ahead.

Re: the maximum speed of the U-2, that's just incredible! I mean, the Germans could have just pulled the tarp off of any Fokker E. III's left lying around and used them to shoot the U-2's down! Was the reason for the effectiveness of the U-2's? I imagine anything going that slow could pretty much drop its bombs where it wanted.

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ArgonV
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posted 08-05- 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old but safe to fly.... the Polikarpov Po-2. That plane goes way back before WWII, 1928 I believe is when it entered service. Actually, I think the MAX airspeed was 93 mph according to my refrence. She was also used as a trainer and for reconnaissance. In my refrence, it says the bombload was only 250kg (550lbs) Odd eh Laika? She was used from 1928 to 1952. Over 20,000 were produced. Thats a TON of aircraft!

Laika I do wish you would have the Po-2 as your next project (after you take a long break of course! Youve worked your butt off!) This aircraft is just sooo historic.

Just scanned this pic....

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Laika 801
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posted 08-05- 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah ArgonV thats the problem with soviet aircraft - 10 sources, 10 different values and uhh a looong break I'll do

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semmern
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posted 08-05- 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Po-2 was also the plane used as 'Bedcheck Charlies' during the Korean war. They were too slow for the jets to clob, so the Leathernecks (Marines) had to employ specialised Corsair squadrons that could fly slow enuff to get them. Or they could of course run after them and stop them by grabbing their tail wheels.

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Werner Molders
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posted 08-06- 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Laika - I'm currently finishing up two items on my sdoe 'to do' list right now, but once those are complete I'll get in touch with you and we can get to work on your list.

Jeeves - If you're going to pursue this in the intervening time, please let me know so we can coordinate its inclusion in the release of "Project F" (sorry for the evasiveness, I need to protect the element of surprise).

Werner

P.S. No, I haven't disappeared, I'm just quietly plugging away on some goodies for you folks...

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AGAS - 5
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posted 08-06- 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Werner,

email on its way bro....regret delay.

AGAS 5

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