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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-02- 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/2000/

Actually this is a modified Hawker Kestrel, the plane that lead to the Harrier's development. This thing can go vertical from a stand still and as one can imagine is very tricky to fly. Once you get the hang of it it's alot of fun.

I did this over the weekend and spent tonight working on the gear. All the wheels contact the ground and roll as they should. I'm going to work on the nozzles tomorrow. In flight you can go from a slow forward speed hover to forward flight (nozzles at 0 degs), and of course, from full speed back into a hover. Right now it has a 0 deg setting and 90 degs. It's set at 0 deg so the AI can fly it, but when a human takes over they can go into hover mode. I'm going to mess with 40-60 settings as well.

Cockpit, as you can tell not even started yet. I hope to do a basic one though. It's a very fun project and great to see in the air. More to come.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-02- 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 08-02-2000).]

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-02- 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In that pic I'm flying at about 10 knots past the tower in a semi-hover. If you have very low forward speed (below 10 knots) it's like balancing the thing on the head of a pin and gravity usually wins.

I'm planning on cranking this in a short time since it's been sitting on my HD for many months. I started it as the F-15C with Razer747 way back when and just recently decided to make it into the full blown airplane. I'll post more pics as it gets close to release.

Btw, I am still working on the Me163, and about a bazillion other projects. This one was my stress reliever.

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CrossbowArcher
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posted 08-02- 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrossbowArcher   Click Here to Email CrossbowArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, I like jets
It would be nice to make some rocket pods on teh wings

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Vau
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posted 08-02- 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vau   Click Here to Email Vau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there is a god of landing-gear-modelling, it must be YOU. Even if some of your creations never leave beta, the gear always kicks ass from the beginning. Impressive.

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Gecko
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posted 08-02- 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gecko   Click Here to Email Gecko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Pete, this is awesome! I always thought that when I do learn OpenPlane (like I ever will ), I would do the Harrier. I love it that you beat me to it!

I was curious, how do you account for the low speed controls? Is it possible (as in the real bird) to add small nozzles at the tail and wings that are linked to control inputs, as in the real bird? Is it possible to link engine throttles to controls apart from the ussual throttle?

Another solution could be (if possible) to put some constant thrust engines onto the standard control surfaces, and another engine to oppose the total thrust of those engines. When control surfaces are still, the total thrust of all engines would be zero, but when the control surfaces are moved the equilibrium is broken and you have precisely the controls you want. Just a thought.

Grand Prix 3 released and a Harrier in the works! What more could a simmer want ?

-Gecko =FC=

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 08-02- 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She looks pretty. How about modifying it to the Sea Harrier. She was the true fighting version of the ahrrier. Loads better.

I'm only slightly biased since my father was chief engineering officer for the sea harrier flight trials unit at RNAS Yeovilton.

Those babies are mind blowing at full hover.

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Jaguar
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posted 08-02- 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad to see that your back on the jets man! Keep up the good work!...... damn, I can't wait to fly it.{DROOL}...... you DO realize that the harrier is just a wannabe helicopter right? hehehehe

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ArgonV
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posted 08-02- 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome! I knew you had that up your sleve some how. I hope you fully finish this project.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-02- 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well guys, wow. This is cool. I went for a late night swim and was hoping for maybe ONE reply, this is great

This was an AV-8B Harrier but the lines didn't look as good as I'd hoped in this game. Then I thought the Kestrel would be "maybe" better, and I did like the lines more in SDOE. Either way, it's gonna be nice when finished. Thanks for the great replies, keeps me happily going.

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LLv34_Camouflage
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posted 08-02- 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LLv34_Camouflage   Click Here to Email LLv34_Camouflage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh, the Kestrel.

Luftwaffe's second best scoring ace in WW2 with 301 victories, Gerhard Barkhorn, test flew a RAF Kestel in the 60's. Unfortunately he crashed the plane, suffering serious injuries. When he was helped out of the remains of the plane, he reportedly muttered "drei hundert und zwei" - 302.

Camo

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where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."

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Vau
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posted 08-02- 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vau   Click Here to Email Vau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dreihundertzwei! ROTFL

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Pete Hawk
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posted 08-02- 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case anyone is wondering if this plane will be fun to fly, it had me up until 9AM this morning!

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Jaguar
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posted 08-02- 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uh oh..... that plane is definately trouble ..... I CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT!!!!!!!!!

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BjornB
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posted 08-03- 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BjornB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great effort Pete !

I remember the Harrier in Janes ATF was fun to fly, and I bet your great new SDOE plane will be awesome. Your (and a few others) effort has really made SDOE a stayer.
Even if I get new sims, I always go back to SDOE for the sheer fun of flying. There are so many new planes to choose from, and they all have their own distinct handling. If I should pick one thing that differentiate SDOE from other sims it must be the damage modelling, and the way planes and objects reacts when touching each other or colliding.
Havent had the time to really fly much lately.(rebuilding the basement this summer)
When I choose to have a quick flight I tend to turn back to the 2(!) year old SDOE or Falcon. My personal favourites of their respective eras

Pete and all you other wizards: Keep up the great work !

Bjorn

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