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ArgonV
Pilot
posted 07-19- 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all. I just thought I would keep everyone updated.

So far things are looking good. I believe all of the damage problems have ben solved and the FM is slow and sluggish. The gear now works in sync and you can land it with out ripping or bending them off. Aladar did a great 3d model for the Mistel with struts and the modified nose. (thanks Aladar!) The taking off problem with the gear is being worked on by ReaperMan. As soon as he fixes that (I believe he did) and sends me the SM, I'll incorporate what all has ben done to that and hopefully find someone to post a public Beta version. The AI cant launch the Mistel however and that will always be, do to the fact that the modified Ju-88 isnt actaully a REAL bomb. So only on-line (hopefully it will make it into the plane packs) and lone single player (just you, no AI) will work. There is one other problem that a DOF expert will have to give me the fix to. The modified Ju-88 jolts back really fast on release because of the breaking DOF method I use to detach it. I hope that can and will be fixed. When it's released to the public I hope people will try it and report any bugs that they find.

Here's a pic for your enjoyment.

[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 07-19-2000).]

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CrossbowArcher
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posted 07-19- 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrossbowArcher   Click Here to Email CrossbowArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice

I have another Luftwaffe weapon in teh works

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Hertog
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posted 07-19- 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hertog   Click Here to Email Hertog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question...

What use had this, euhm, plane during the war?

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CrossbowArcher
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posted 07-19- 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrossbowArcher   Click Here to Email CrossbowArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Primitive standoff attack weapon. It had a 3600kg warhead in teh Ju88's cockpit. No real successes were made during the war however.

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Royohboy
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posted 07-19- 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Royohboy   Click Here to Email Royohboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mistel-project got off the ground because of its range. On the way to the target the Mistel and the control-aircraft would use up the fuel in the Mistel's tanks, and the control aircraft would only start to use its own resources upon release of the Mistel. This concept was proven before the war in 1938 in England: The Short Mayo, a four-engined flying boat with a smaller four-engined float-plane piggy-back made a non-stop trip from Dundee to South-Africa.

The background was that the Germans planned bombing the Home Fleet at Scapa Flow, but a bomber fuelled up for that range was only able to carry a very light bomb-load. The Mistel was thought to be the perfect weapon for the task: One Mistel would easily sink a battleship while it would take a couple of huge bombs to seriously damage it. Its hollow-charge warhead was able to penetrate steel eight meters thick or 20 meters of reinforced concrete.

After the invasion the plans for the Scapa Flow raid were shelved. At the end of the war, however, KG 200 used the Mistels already produced for the shelved raid for an attack on the Russian-held Oder bridges. Only a fraction of the Mistels scheduled for these missions ever hit their targets, many crashing on take-off due to landing-gear-failure (quite common), or aborting due to in-flight problems.

As for the "stand-offness" of this weapon: Mistels were aimed at their targets very much like a dive-bomber - I think that's rather close combat.

Peter

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ReaperMan
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posted 07-19- 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReaperMan   Click Here to Email ReaperMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Argon, I did get the gear thing fixed, so the left wheel doesn't go through the ground. Still not sure what was causing that. I started over again with the SM you sent me, changed obWheels, and it was working again. And, for some reason (this doesn't seem to be happening to anyone else) the Ju88's props appear bent on startup (although they still seem to work fine) I tested this with the SM you sent me, and after fixing it so the gear wouldn't break, the props still appear bent

I will send the SM I have. Please return the favor and send me the new Mistel SM

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ArgonV
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posted 07-19- 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ReaperMan, my updated SM is sending as I type this.

BTW, if you already sent your SM I didnt revieve it.

[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 07-19-2000).]

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ReaperMan
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posted 07-19- 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReaperMan   Click Here to Email ReaperMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. the Mistel is looking nice.
Don't forget the 109 splash bug! The offending obBodyPt is in the tail (actually, there are two - one on each side). I tried changing it in OPS, but after saving and reloading it was back to the original value ?? Maybe better to edit the asc file directly.

Oh yeah, I tested and was able to shoot down the Ju88 with the 109... but my aircraft was consumed in the resulting explosion. No CTD, though

Also, I've noticed the Ju88's engines seem to stop (or maybe just cut to 10% power) after release. Wonder if this can be fixed...

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ArgonV
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posted 07-19- 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll TRY to change the 109 body part problem. I tried it but what you said, it went back to the origonal. The reason for the explosion? If you shot a huge flying bomb packed with explosives with your guns, would it not explode? Ahh the engines, I actually would like them to cut. (it took me a while to figure out how to do this) If you release the Mistel flying straight, it will fly forever with the engines on! So getting them to cut is a plus.

BTW, I got what you sent and Im going to go test it now.

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