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Topic: She's not dead!, Meet Kraft's P-39 Beta6!
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Razer
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posted 07-14- 08:43 AM
   
 this is an old image so it only shows the new mapping on the wings. I've fixed all the lighting problems and i've started on a new and fully 3D tail. Fuse will be mapped in a few days since it's pretty dynamic and i want it to be perfect. She will be using 3 tiff's and will have a nice high res texture like the P-47. There is a working cockpit that Kraft did and that will have to do for now. If all things go well you can see a beta late next week. Enjoy! ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin
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Kraftwerk
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posted 07-14- 09:31 AM
Sniff sobble *TOOT*
What a beaut man..what a beaut.IP: Logged |
Razer
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posted 07-14- 10:46 AM
Wait till she's fully skined!Since it saw more combat with russia, i wonder if it flew with the Pe-2? ------------------
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ArgonV
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posted 07-14- 02:29 PM
wow! neat! kewl! must have beta!  awsome! IP: Logged |
Snickers
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posted 07-14- 05:16 PM
I know you already know this but just in case  P-39 == P-400------------------
Snickers
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Razer
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posted 07-15- 12:14 AM
P-400?------------------
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ArgonV
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posted 07-15- 03:20 AM
The P-39Qs flew in Russia and since this was mainly a ground attack fighter I doubt they flew escort with Pe-2s. I THINK (not too sure, its ben a while since I looked at this) that the P-400 is a suped up P-39???IP: Logged |
Mirthain
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posted 07-15- 11:37 AM
No, the P-400 was just the export version of the P-39. Instead of the 37mm gun it had a 20mm cannon mounted in the spinner. It was designed for the brits actually. The 39 saw more combat in the Pacific than europe, but did see some action in North Africa. For Low level she is great. She just really didn't do it at altitude, keep her below 15K and she should perform very nicely. The reason that she was called the "Iron Dog" is because she couldn't perform against the Zero and other planes at altitude. But low down, she was a force, one of the best Ground Attack planes to come out of the war...
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semmern
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posted 07-16- 08:40 AM
The P-400 wasn't the export version, but British ones with 20 mm's returned to the US when the Brits found that they didn't need them anymore.IP: Logged |
Mirthain
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posted 07-16- 01:43 PM
Perhaps you should double check this source. One of the best on the P-39 series in general that I know of. This link is to the P-400 only.... http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p39_5.html
This also has some good information about flight caracterestics of the 400 from the tests the Brits used to evaluate the plane. The results are going to be comparable to the P-39C.
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Snickers
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posted 07-16- 10:45 PM
Lisetn to Mir, he knows whereof he speaks. The 67FS flew P39's / P-400's (as well as P40's until Dec 7th when they were all destroyed on the ground... P-38s and eventually, P-51's Initials of the 67th? FC Coincidence? I'll let you decide...
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Carl Gould
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posted 07-16- 11:03 PM
I hope someone comes up with a russain color
scheme to go with it as well as usaac colors.
several russain aces flew it and scored very
well while Saburu Sakai was using them as
target practice. I can only figure that it
was very good on the deck, as most of the
air combat in Russia was pretty low from
what ive read. Chuck Yeager wrote that it
performed pretty well low as well. i want to
see the effects of that 37mm-one hit on a
Zero should result in a shower of aluminum.
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Mirthain
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posted 07-17- 08:47 PM
You are correct sir. The P-39 was a great low level aircraft, and that is the reason I have been screaming for it in FS. Most of the "Great" Planes we hear so much about the mustangs and thunderbolts, were really designed around high altitudes. Even the 38 was originally designed around high Alt.s, although kicked serious ass at low levels. We were mostly looking for fighters to counter fighters, and other A/C at 15K+. That is where the miserable reports of the 39 come from. But down low, she was a dynamo. The russians could care less about the high alt stuff, they needed to kill tanks and support ground troops. The 39 was right at home with this style of fighting. The U.S. and brits wanted a high alt. interceptor and escort plane. Not what the 39 was designed to do. Keep her low and this will be one deadly plane.
One story that I have been trying to dig up from an old Air Classics magazine was a race to 10K feet between one of the CAF P-39's and a P-51. The 39 beat the 51 to 10K. With time to spare.
Never underestimate the Iron Dog. She does have teeth.... ;}
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Snickers
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posted 07-17- 09:41 PM
Dont sell her too short Mir, the Iron Dog did very well in the Pacific (starting at Guadal Canal...) Again in ground assault and close support roles.------------------
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