posted 06-29- 05:18 PM               

I have to recalibrate it for speed and climb now, and I know although our A4 can easily outclimb the Spit 1a, sometimes outclimb the Spit V and stands a good chance against a p38 in a dogfight, it has troubles against the Spit IX. Since we don't have any kind of boost or WEP on the planes I'm left with three choices that could all be considered "accurate"

1. Set the climb/speed to that of a derated engine that some 190's had. (worse performance than now)

2. Set the climb/speed to combat power for a regular 190, sustainable for 30 minutes (same as now)

3. Set the climb/speed to boost setting sustainable for 3 minutes (better than now)

The reason I set it to #2 is that giving the plane unlimited boost would be a bit unfair. Unfortunately it means that it is no match for the IX.

Opinions?

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posted 06-29- 06:07 PM               

I'm not sure if this within your realm, but whenever I fly the A4 it seems to have a very weak engine - i.e. damage-wise. It is forever loosing power after what seems a few minor hits.

posted 06-29- 07:48 PM               

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Originally posted by Tailslide:
2. Set the climb/speed to combat power for a regular 190, sustainable for 30 minutes (same as now)

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Sounds good to me. That said I'm rather unclear on the performance issue. As I see it the plane should outrun, outdive and outaccelerate a IX by a small amount, the IX should outclimb and outturn it. A V should be much slower and have about the same climb (right?) but easily outturn it. When you say it's no match for the IX, what's it like?

BTW, am I right in assuming that the WB 190's are all far too doggish in the turns?

posted 06-30- 09:03 AM               

...and it reads...

" Vote for option number 2."

posted 06-30- 02:32 PM               

Seriously, just I pasted over the engine damage model from the yak into the new 190 I am working on. Its got fuel leaks, engine fires, etc. etc. The 190 had some vulnerable spots in its engine where it was prone to oil leaks and black smoke when it was shot in the right spots. I set its engine to be as vulnerable as the yak, which took its DM from the I-16 but set more vulnerable as the I-16 is a radial engine. If some damage guru wants to refine the DM with x minutes of black smoke instead of fire before the engine quits, after I finish up this version I can pass the plane on..

Hi Maury, I said that based on a general impression I got flying it online. Since BnZ is the 190 tactic, being able to flip on boost for a minute while climbing back up really helps in other sims, unfortunately we can't do that. I haven't flown warbirds in ages, but yes as far as I can tell the A4 did not have a horrible turn rate but culdnt turn against a spit or yak. Likely had a small edge over the p51 in a sustained turn fight.

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posted 07-01- 01:30 AM               

I'm really sorry I'm not helping you with flight testing as I did a few times (I hope it was help of some kind ) in the distant ancient past. It's really great to have you here doing what you are doing for those pesky FMs (as do the others - thanks to them too).

And here is my next pitty attempt at giving another piece of advice :
set it to option:

3

please.

My reasoning is that when the dogfights occured they were in most cases solved within those precious few minutes of MW50 thus the max power was available for the whole fight. In our (?) case, cos we like long risky dogfights, those few minutes last a bit longer, we just try to stretch the reality (cool, indeed).

Of course the extra power for the whole time makes for instance long chases a bit (a bit!) unrealistic, but who likes to run away when he (she? where are the ladies?) can face the enemy and die with honour ?

Cheers,

Poniat

posted 07-01- 08:39 AM            

I dont know how a real Fw190 is flying. My real life experience ends up at 260HP not 1700HP. But as these warbirds, where quite heavy, I guess, they should bleed a lot of speed very fast. That's what the fw190A4 is doing. The only complain I have is, that some of the allied planes dont bleed energy in the same manner. e.g I tried to glide a p51 in clean configuration (no flaps, gear up) and you dont loose speed at all. Ok a bit, but very slowly. Therefore they have a clear advantage against the fw190. All I want
to say. Keep in mind, that some of the planes should be a good match against each other.

Just a short reference, you know probably:
"I turned desperatly to be not a target and to come into a good shooting position. I never experienced that Jerry stayed and fighted like that Focke-Wulf pilots",
Al Deer, N403 Canadian Squadron, 2.June 1942

posted 07-20- 09:05 AM               

I agree with Bakunin, the main problem being that we have a mixture of planes with weak fms and others with 'tweaked for realism' fms such as yours. That's where a lot of angst comes from when flying the 190a4 or 'insert your plane here' anxieties.
It's my favourite plane but not one I want to be in when there's a Corsair or the like amongst the pack.
I hadn't noticed the wep fall off after 30 mins, probably because I'm rarely flying for that length of time, that's interesting. Mind you I didn't know it was using Wep either so thanks for bringing that to my attention.
The damage on the 190 works great, but it doesn't with others so well, so we have an uneven match when it comes to fights.
A couple of hits slows it down but not with others, I guess if you wanted to go on living longer you would pass on the 190a4.
Wouldn't you guys benefit from an Fm team factory that ensures the planes all come out in realistic/matched states at the same time?
Is Ops disbanded now?
What colour shoes am I wearing?

posted 07-20- 01:42 PM               

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