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Topic: Is anyone doing a Me110?
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JG300x_Hartmann Pilot
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posted 06-16- 10:42 AM
If so, how far along are you? If not, could someone make one? I have tons of specs for this aircraft.... And I would really like to see it in this game.JG300_Hartmann IP: Logged |
Bulldog1 Pilot
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posted 06-16- 11:10 AM
I would be very carefull how you word a question such as this as all the new planes you see and the patch's/Plane pack's etc. are all community originated. These guy's do not work for the company's that were the orig developers of the game and they spend there own personal time making sure people like you and me, that do not develope or add to this game apart from being targets, continue to enjoy the sim. I think you are relativitaly new here so I know most of them won't get to upset. Asking the question 'is there a ******' is fine but requesting that someone make it for you will piss people off. If you look thouroughly through this board you will find most if not all the aircraft that are currently in development. Anyway now that I've slapped your wrist on behalf of the community I'm wondering why you requested this aircraft, did you once fly in one or something? Your friend Bulldog. IP: Logged |
Jerry Pilot
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posted 06-16- 11:59 AM
Bulldog, if you look at Hartmann's profile you will see that he has been on this board longer than you. What did you find in his request that is going to offend anyone? People ask for particular planes all the time, and he offered to supply specs and data which is more than most people offer and is one of the things that the builders have the most trouble obtaining.The important thing is that he asked, he didn't demand. In the past most of the plane builders have asked for community input as to what they would like to see. Lighten up. Your friend Jerry. IP: Logged |
JG300x_Hartmann Pilot
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posted 06-16- 11:59 AM
Thanks for the warning Bulldog... I might have to get OpenPlane LOL!I have not flown in a Me110 but I am a big WWII aircraft buff (especially for German aircraft). Everywhere I go to see people talk about sims and old WWII planes seems to leave this plane out. It was such a big player in WWII..... The invasion of Poland, France, Norway (where a few landed at one of the airfields and used its machine gun to capture the place), Russia, and the doomed Operation Sea Lion. The later versions (Me110g and beyond) were bomber killers and they were extremely deadly. I just think for historical purposes that this plane should be in the game....... Have you seen the picture of the flight of 110s flying by the Cliffs of Dover? It would be really neat to recreate that. IP: Logged |
Bulldog1 Pilot
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posted 06-16- 12:19 PM
I was just going from previous posts where just requesting the aircraft has had people reamed before now. sorry Hartman IP: Logged |
wakeup tailgunner Pilot
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posted 06-16- 12:31 PM
GImme GIMME GIMME !!!!!!!!!!Already have a model which I am trying to FM. All information welcome It is a plane that is definitely missing from the world of SDOE, or at least I think so. It is still quite basic at the moment, and will stay that way until I can make it fly like Ithink it should. What I really need is information on the following: Cockpit layout and design Flight details Speed, climb rates, and cutaways. Etc. Etc. Etc. It would be a big help, since I only have basic specs to go on. I have lots of external pics, but it's the detail I am missing Look forward to seeing you stuff! IP: Logged |
Laika 801 Pilot
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posted 06-16- 01:34 PM
I'm a bad guy Tailgunner ! I plan to release a Bf110 (or Me ? ) too. It will use much of the stuff from the Pe2. That means I only need a new model (2 weeks) , some changes in the DM (1 week) and new textures (4 days). And a new FM of course (1 week minimum - open end). But release is planned for october or so...  Am I kidding ? dont know LK IP: Logged |
Razer Pilot
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posted 06-16- 01:40 PM
one is already in the works and is flying. It needed shading fixes and to be texture mapped but thats the last i heard many months ago.------------------
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charmstar Pilot
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posted 06-16- 02:25 PM
Laika- Why don't you work on a different plane since tailgunner already did the model? Or, you two could work together on the plane! Gosh, I'm just thinking... wouldn't a Polikarpov I-153 be sweet? Or a P-39, or a Nakajima Ki-27? All I know for sure is I'd rather have a 110 plus a different fighter than two 110's! Oh, also there is the early model Stuka; maybe borrow some parts from mposis and do that... :-)charm IP: Logged |
Razer Pilot
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posted 06-16- 02:54 PM
how about helping on someone elses projects, **COUGH**KI-61**COUGH**...**COUGH**P-39**COUGH**..**COUGH**B-25**COUGH**....maybe even the **COUGH**KI-84**COUGH**... ok, i'm going to take some medicine now to get rid of this cough..
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Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged |
JG300x_Hartmann Pilot
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posted 06-16- 02:57 PM
Exactly which model were you working on Tailgunner? I have the most info on the 110G (it is my favorite!! ) I can e-mail you as much as I can.... I could even send you a screen shot of the EAW panel (It is pretty accurate).IP: Logged |
Snickers Pilot
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posted 06-16- 03:17 PM
So what are you trying to say Razer? You don't like being looked up to and adored for you great skill and prowess? That you don't like the adulation(sp?) greatness brings? Better get some more of that medicine... Weren't you going to help on the PBY too? How many of you are there? No wait, you really speak as a representative for the design section of Martin right?  Thanks for all the help you and other guys are willing to give. Things would move a lot more slowly without it. ------------------ Snickers =FC= IP: Logged |
wakeup tailgunner Pilot
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posted 06-17- 03:18 AM
Any chance you could mail me a copy of your PE2 Laika?I'm a beginner at this FM lark, and your plane could be helpful in getting me going on a flying aircraft. At present, I,m trying to get her stable and flying at the right speed. Oh yes, and I think I need to do some careful lining up in OPS. Hit 300mph and she shakes until bits fall off........ Then I have the cockpit to work on...... IP: Logged |
wakeup tailgunner Pilot
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posted 06-17- 03:23 AM
JG, info on the 'G' would be great. I wanted to start with a BOB 'C' model, to scrap with the Spits and Hurricanes, but the external differences are minimal. All I would need was different spinners for the props and the smaller tailplanes. The 'G' would just have to be the nightfighter variant, with exhaust baffles, and a variety of nose antenna, possibly with the option of Shrage Musik and a selection of field service packs foe armament. Some of those late 110's packed a LOT of firepower.Oh yes, and the 'G' had twin rear guns.... Why do these things always look so easy...until you start!
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Laika 801 Pilot
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posted 06-17- 04:36 AM
Sorry tailgunner - the Pe2 has no FM yet, I mean I will use the "structure" (i.e. A becomes visible when B detaches and some engine/gear things etc) of the sm file. I can send you a copy, but I think its not a good idea at this moment to use the Pe2.sm for anything - its simply too rough and its not tested by a large crowd of people, it might be full of bugs, one other thing is that there is nearly no DM (structure wise). So my opinion - no good. You can look at it to see how I did some things. Just tell me if you want it. LK IP: Logged |
Elric Pilot
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posted 06-17- 07:33 AM
Hmmmm....wakeup,razer; I have the bf110 which was started a LONG time ago, the orginal model was done by stubb? given to me, which I did nothing with and then gave to Ash, Ash and Razer got the model into OPS but it wasn't textured. I have started to texture the model. I've remodelled and mapped the engines and wings which were not to scale. I've being doing this on and off (due to AC3D not working and my laziness) for two months. I have some good quality three plan views of the bf110-C4 and specs and photos. So, could somebody email me Elric so we can do this as a group effort. Thanks Elric IP: Logged |
Laika 801 Pilot
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posted 06-17- 12:57 PM
My point of view is this (skip the next 10 lines if you dont want to know ): the Bf110 should fullfill some "things" - the model should be good to brilliant, that means low polycount (I mean triangels here - about 800 - 1100) for good FPS rates. The model should also come in the right size and dimensions(no "borrowed" parts from other planes), it should use not too much own textures. It should "work" right (the gear system, flaps, ailerons etc). I think the 3d-model is the base to work with, its hard to redo parts on a bad model (cause then it would be faster to build it completly new...). FM and DM are things you could do step by step with an open end (=never reach a perfect state ), but the model, did I said it allready ?, is the base ! I would say that building a good (or maybe a brilliant ) model is not too hard, with some skills and good tut's it a 1 or 2 month job (some did good models in 2 weeks...). Dont think that I try to say that the model(s) I did are perfect in any way (because they are not pfct) or that other models are "bad" at all. But if you look closer to the user build planes and vehicles you'll see differences. Most of the "bad" things I saw belong to wrong techniques in modelling, so they are not necessary. huh - much blabla - I just wanna say "wakeuptailgunner - do your best" !!! GOOOOOD LUCK ! LK IP: Logged |
JG300x_Hartmann Pilot
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posted 06-17- 01:35 PM
Rgr Tailgunner. I will put together a giant list of the armaments, flight characteristics, radars, and damage areas. I have read articles of Bf110's being hit by cannon and completely disinegrating.IP: Logged |