posted 06-05- 11:21 PM               

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Spitfire mk1a

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posted 06-05- 11:40 PM               

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So does this one

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posted 06-06- 12:05 AM               

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LOL!!! How did he get back?!?! Or was it blown off while parked?

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posted 06-06- 12:24 AM               

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http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/f15wing.asp

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posted 06-06- 02:02 AM               

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Spanky here...

The Fuse of the Avro CF-100 Canuck attributed a full 30% of the lift of the aircraft.

I wouldn't automaticaly assume that a spit couldn't fly like that. I wouldn't be easy bit It might be possible.

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posted 06-06- 04:14 AM               

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I'd say it's possible on half a wing but when we see a whole wing blown off and it flies I need more convincing.

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posted 06-06- 05:22 AM               

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Well done Tailslide, that's a great (true) story !!

If I hadn't seen the pics I wouldn't of believed it

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posted 06-06- 09:08 AM               

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RE: Would it fly? ...

Actually if you consider that FS doesn't model control-line failure, the actual likelyhood of the spit flying like that would be very rare .... However modern jets have redundant hydrolic relays, so if a control surfaces oil line is severed it automaticly caps/closes of the line so the rest of the control surfaces still function.

So to answer the question ... aerodynamicly.."yes" it might .... In reality ... most likely "not".

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posted 06-06- 09:47 AM               

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Spanky here..

Good Point Zur, That definatly needs to be implemetned in openplane version 2.0

not all planes were hydraulic though.

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posted 06-06- 12:42 PM               

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Theres an interesting bit in "Baa baa black sheep" where he mentions a fellow knocking 3 to 4 feet off each wingtip during a strafing run flying between two coconut trees and made it back. Don't know if its true but its a good story

TS

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posted 06-06- 07:39 PM               

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See, thats the problem with these "fixed wing" aircraft. Had the wing been rotating, it would be fine LOL! That is interesting to see that the body creates so much lift.

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posted 06-06- 07:43 PM               

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Ok, today I will rip off the spit's entire wing and lets see if it will fly.

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posted 06-06- 08:43 PM               

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So Jag, you're saying I can lose half of one of my blades and still fly...hmmmmmm.....didn't know that. hehe

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posted 06-08- 12:45 AM               

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The F15 didnt spin.
I was about to take control of it when the dumb AI pilot bailed out. The plane appeared to be flyable.

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posted 06-08- 12:59 AM               

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the force of impact would just rotate the blade out of the way LOL

You know, Bell helicotpers had a helicopter with only 1 blade! needless to say it had aa HUGE counter weight on the other side. The idea was, when you have 2 or more blades on a rotor, the turbulance created by the blades would reduce the lift on the following blade. With only one blade, the turbulance had enough time to dissipate before the blade came around again. I guess this idea didn't pan out too well, as bell sticks to 2 and 4 blade designs...... Just UFI incase you were wondering.

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posted 06-08- 04:05 PM               

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The reason the F-15 can fly with a wing missing, is that the horizontal stabilizer is so big(bigger than a T-38 wing) it creates enough lift to compensate for the missing wing. Plus the fuselage acts as a lifting body. That and I believe the pilot used differential throttle inputs to aid in directional stearing. I read that US pilots tried this same thing in the sim. The outcome was the same, and a hell of a lot of work! Hope it helps.

Storm

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posted 06-08- 06:40 PM               

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Looks like Pete Hawk's F15 FM is realistic.

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posted 06-09- 04:04 AM               

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Imho the 1 wing thing is great. I love struggling home in a crippled plane cause its a challenge. I've done in the Corsair, Spit, Typh, Dora, 109, and the bombers. I haven't always made it back to a base but I can usually get wheels down or a good belly landing. Keeping her in 1 piece is a lot harder than you would think.

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