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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-02- 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SPanky here...

New article on www.firingsquad.com

Its all about the big upgrade choice, new cpu or new vid card?

The usually have really good articles.

Just to voice my opinion. I find SDOE to be a very CPU dependent game. I run a voodoo banshee and its not uncommon to have FPS up in the 70s for me. I'm only using a 333p2 to back it up. My upgrade of choice would be a new CPU.

Why? Cause even when no planes are in view, if thers alot of them my FPS drops If ya ask me it sounds like i just don't have enough CPU power to back up the vid card.

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ReaperMan
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posted 06-02- 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReaperMan   Click Here to Email ReaperMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tailslide
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posted 06-02- 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

CPU definitely.. I barely noticed a FPS change going from TNT1 to TNT2 ultra but the CPU upgrade made a huge difference.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-02- 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SPanky here..

You 2 eh reap

Exactly Tail, thats the same reason I feel its time for a new CPU before another vid card.

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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 06-02- 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put a Ge-Force with that 333 Spanky, you WILL see a difference. The Ge-Force takes a major load of the CPU, so even a low spec one will enjoy the difference.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-02- 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...


They would probly rise but I don't think it would be an amazing difference. Specialy since SDOE doesn't have the T&L in it. If it did then I would think there would be a big differnce.


someone running a p2 350 or lower and a geforce give me some FPS #s so I can compare.

THe highest you have even seen and with a couple other planes in view from inside the cockpit.

Besides that right now in this town a geforce is $299 I can buy a cel 533 for $239. I'm pretty sure buying the cel would do more for me then the geforce.

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Hawker
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posted 06-02- 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawker   Click Here to Email Hawker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well i am going with cpu,thought about the voodoo 5500 and the ge force ddr they are bloody expensive,more then my upgrade to almost a complet new p-3 600 tower with 128 ram,new 15 meg harddrive keeping my banshee for now is gonna cost me.

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Army puke SFC
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posted 06-02- 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Army puke SFC   Click Here to Email Army puke SFC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Voodoo3 2000 PCI and you wouldnt want to hear the spd of my CPU, but I can have a respectable FPS for such a slow machine.
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Madmoe
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posted 06-03- 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Madmoe   Click Here to Email Madmoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a GeForce256, but have an AMD k6 II-350 to go with it. Upgrading would mean a new motherboard for me, not likely in the near future . For the price concience, what is the best MB/CPU combo currently?

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-03- 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here....

That does suck man. I would say that if your going to upgrade get your self a sweet socket 370 MoBo. And that way for now you can buy a cheap celeron chip. and later you can still upgrade to a nice P3 if you run into some money.

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Whirlwind
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posted 06-03- 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, Spanky the Mad Dog, if I were him, I'd stay AMD. Their CPU's are just as fast, and he can get a great motherboard and a CPU running at the same MHZ for the same price of just getting an Intel CPU. The T-birds are coming out next week, followed in 2 weeks by the cheaper Durons (sounds like a battery or a paint).

I guess to see if you are fill rate limited, try running Unreal, or UT at various resolutions. If the frame rate starts levelling off after a certain point, you are fill rate limited, so you need a faster video card. If the FPS keeps dropping, you need a new CPU, of course later you might find that you also need a new video card.

If you are getting the frame rate you want, go for the CPU, since the top dog video cards are around $300-350 and a much faster CPU is around the same (Sharkyextreme.com has the 750 weighing in at around $343, and the 700 showing up at $266). If you are into O/C'ing things, check out some reviews on the Celeron II 533 and 566. Some of them were able to be overclocked to 800mhz and 850mhz, respectively, and running stably.
A 750 will definitely outhorse a banshee, especially since most of the new video cards have a hard time taxing an 850.

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