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ArgonV Pilot	posted 05-26- 10:29 PM Hi all, I FINALLY (after many tries) got the V-1 to launch, glide, and explode all with out a CTD! What does this mean? We can launch it from heavy German bombers! All we need now are some heavy German bombers. There still are a few things however. I need someone to scale the V1 down a bit.(I dont have a 3d program or $40) Its WAY too large! Its just about as big as a Ju188. And as of now you cannot control it. But I am working on this! Now that Ive fixed this sucker, we can have other planes that launch as well. But I need some one to make a rack on top of the Ju88 and a bomb placement on the Me-109 so I can latch those two together. Anytakers? Opps, one more thing. Since this is an aircraft and it has an engine, how can I make the engine turn on when I launch it? BTW, I did everything with a Hex-editor! I should download OPS huh? Im doin it now I should of done it many hours ago... [This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 05-26-2000).] IP: Logged
Raider Pilot	posted 05-27- 02:27 AM ArgonV, good work, to get the engine to fire, what if you gave it the properties of a rocket, instead of a bomb. That should make it fire when released. Maybe make a bigger flame that unhides when it is detached. ------------------ Raider 33rd~GS Raiders Site IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 05-27- 07:10 AM Raider, thanks! I just went and tried it. It makes the rocket firing sound and has a small smoke trail now. Only problem is, I dont hear the V-1s engine after its fired (if the engine does fire, how do I make it stronger?) and how do I make the smoke trail bigger? IP: Logged
biggels3 Pilot	posted 05-27- 07:19 AM dos the vi actuly acselerate away from the launch plane ------------------ scramble!scramble!scramble! "i have to go biggels3 out" IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 05-27- 07:25 AM Not as of yet. (thats why I want to get the engine to start) What happens is you press the rocket release button, you here the rocket detach sound and it starts to glide gently downward. If the V-1 goes really slow and has a light descent, it will skid on the ground instead of blowing up. I did that on purpose so you could could have "dud" V-1s IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 05-27- 09:59 AM OK, here's my only idea on the engine start thing, and I haven't tried it yet... All the planes get their thrust from the propeller (even the jets, right)? The engine is simply the device that keeps the prop moving, I think. Sooo... What if you just give the PROP a DOF to be turning all the time? You can specify the prop will turn 360 degrees. You can specify it will do that in .05 seconds if you want, and then make the DOF a "looping" DOF and it will continue forever. That would make it turn 20 times per second (1200 rpm). Since the prop itself has airfoils that produce the thrust, as long as it turns from something other than the wind, it should produce thrust, right? The DOF acts as a "fake engine," and of course you can turn the DOF on and off anytime you want. You could make the DOF activate with the ENTER key and the prop should start spinning when you release the bomp-plane. The only question is can a "bomb" object have a DOF activated by the pilot of the launching plane? I think it can, as long as you make the DOF's "parent" the plane you're flying. At least that's how the various pilot animations work. Whattya think? ------------------ --jedi-- [This message has been edited by jedi (edited 05-27-2000).] IP: Logged
Jeeves Pilot	posted 05-27- 10:06 AM In all respects, the V-1 had a propeller on the tip just like the He-163 anyway-- so could you place a prop on the front as well as the pulse engine? ------------------ Brought to you by the campaign for a better Dauntless! IP: Logged
Jaguar Pilot	posted 05-27- 10:23 AM I think that propeller was actually a generator. ------------------ Cheers! Jaguar The FS Hangar IP: Logged
Sebulba Pilot	posted 05-27- 10:28 AM You still need a new model? ------------------ Sleek design, thats all I care about. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 05-27- 10:31 AM I think the small propeller on the front of the V-1 was part of a timing device to measure distance flown and when to cut off fuel. I think I read that somewhere. IP: Logged
Jaguar Pilot	posted 05-27- 12:07 PM I could see how it could be a timing device too. But what if it was flying into a head wind? The timer would say it flew farther than it really did. Great, this is going to bug me now! Time to dig out the books IP: Logged
Jeeves Pilot	posted 05-27- 01:32 PM OK--but to make this work-- I was asking if the prop could be utilized in some way. ------------------ Brought to you by the campaign for a better Dauntless! IP: Logged
wakeup tailgunner Pilot	posted 05-30- 12:17 PM Hey Argon, I've got a small V1, but I can't seem to get mail to work. Mail me and I'll post it to you. Have you changed your e-mail? IP: Logged
ReaperMan Pilot	posted 05-30- 03:16 PM Is the V-1 that Pete made not to scale? If not, could somebody with a 3D program please make it the correct size, and if possible make the wings, engine, and main body of the V-1 seperate objects? This might be more work than it seems to me. Come to think of it, splitting it up into parts will also require re-doing the texture mapping, right? ------------------ -=TheReaper=- IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 05-30- 04:15 PM I read the same thing as Jerry.. they weren't very accurate devices. I came across an excellent v1 site somewhere.. if I could only find the link. TS IP: Logged
Army puke SFC Pilot	posted 05-30- 07:07 PM V1s flew with the estimated distance to target programmed into them. The distance I think is measured like what is stated above. After the flight control computer or whatever automated guidance it has has thought it reached the correct distance, it will signal the pulse-jet engine to stop and the V1 will stall, dive and detonate on the ground, with no precision. V1s have distance-only guidance. I'm not surprised if most of the launch rails were pointed towards London. Horizontal flight is maintained by a gyro. Some V1s were downed before they could reach their targets.the interceptor aircraft tipped over the V1 with a wingtip, overloading the gyro and the V1 will fly into the ground. Detonating V1s in flight with gunfire is too dangerous, as the V1's effective blast radius is almost that of any aircraft gun. It can be done, but you may get your plane damaged or broken up by the blast. I think the V1's warhead is 2000lbs. IP: Logged
li'l bastard Pilot	posted 05-31- 01:24 AM i think the small propeller was the dynamo which charged the batteries of the gyroscopic instruments, as in the Komet. Btw, I really like the 109+ju 88 thing, it was called Mistel and there were lots of variants, even w/ other planes...4 more info just email me(got tons of original pics and schemes...) li'l out IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 05-31- 04:30 AM Whaaa.. did you know Ford made Buzz bomb clones? also.. From "Very Recently US Government Declassified information about the V1" An inexpensive, and not very accurate, mechanism sent the flying bomb diving into its target upon arrival. Each bomb had a small, propellerlike anemometer device on its nose that was connected to the bomb's autopilot. As the flying bomb flew through the air, its forward motion turned the propeller like a pinwheel in the wind. After a preset number of revolutions, the propeller tripped the diving controls, pointing the bomb earthward at a steep angle. The mechanism was set by the catapult crew before launching; the setting of how many revolutions were needed to trip the diving controls was based upon calculations involving the flying bomb's speed and the distance to target. Any number of factors could undo this inherently imprecise system. Headwinds or tailwinds could alter the machine's groundspeed, mining carefully worked-out calculations that were usually a lot more accurate than the mechanism itself. The autopilot might go haywire and send the bomb plunging into the Channel. Or it might not work at all, causing the bomb to overfly London and keep going until it ran out of fuel. When the windmill device tilted the bomb toward the earth, all the fuel ran to one end of the tank-the end away from the fuel pump. The pump began drawing air, and the engine, cut off from its fuel supply, stopped running. People in London and southern England very quickly learned to use this "cutting out" of the engine to their advantage. Between the time the pulsing duv-duv-duv ended and the bomb hit the ground, an average of between five and 15 seconds would pass-enough time for people to dive under a table or some sort of cover. This characteristic undoubtedly saved many lives. ------------------ Patch It! TS Aircombat IP: Logged
Army puke SFC Pilot	posted 05-31- 04:41 AM Man, thats nice..... IP: Logged
Dole Pilot	posted 05-31- 04:41 AM http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap15.htm Hey.. I've stood under one and gazed up at it! (yet another promotion for the US Air Force Museum!.. everyone that is interested in Military aircraft owes themselves a visit to Wright Pat at least once! (...a week if you're as lucky as i am to live 20 minutes from it!) It has it all.. really, it does. And then a little more.) [This message has been edited by Dole (edited 05-31-2000).] IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 05-31- 10:37 AM Hey Dole, How far from Columbus is Dayton? My wife is from Stubinville Oh. and we fly into Columbus From Houston when we visit. I would love to visit the Wright Pat. next time we are up there. ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 05-31- 11:08 AM At Duxford in England there is a complete V-1 and rail launcher. Might be the only complete unit in existence. I have some photos I took but no scanner. Maybe one of our Brit friends has one they can post. IP: Logged
Dole Pilot	posted 05-31- 01:18 PM Gunner - Dayton is just over 70 miles WSW of Columbus. Free Admission, and closed just 3 days a year (Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day.) Also if you're deciding on when to visit, The United States Air and Trade show http://www.usats.org/ (quite a mammoth Air Show) is going to be at the Dayton International Airport July 22 and 23 (Which the CAF's Fifi and Diamond Lil are already signed up to attend.) Every year I've went they've ran shuttle buses from the Air Force Museum to the Airshow. (Which is probably a 20 minute bus ride, but the Air Force Museum has free parking... and last time i went to the Air Show, the parking costed as much as the admission, and still had to walk about a mile ) IP: Logged
Himdog Pilot	posted 05-31- 01:42 PM Gunner, this is very strange but my wife is from Stubinville Oh too! She must be Italian, does she have a short fuse too . Cheers Himdog out IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 05-31- 03:01 PM She is a Irish/German redhead. And there is no shorter fuse than that, lol. That is a different world up there for a Texan like me. Nice place to visit but I....... Hehe,Its a small world ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner [This message has been edited by Gunner (edited 05-31-2000).] IP: Logged
Propwash Pilot	posted 05-31- 03:50 PM I like Ohio ------------------ "Hardcore!" Propwash [This message has been edited by Propwash (edited 05-31-2000).] IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 05-31- 04:17 PM Hey Kopper/Jaguar/Werner/anyone in Alberta.. interested in going? TS IP: Logged
Army puke SFC Pilot	posted 06-01- 01:08 AM Flyable V1 by Pete Hawk [This message has been edited by Army puke SFC (edited 06-01-2000).] IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 06-01- 09:00 AM Thanks Dole, I won't be able to make it until Fall this year. But thats cool. I hear It is very nice there in the Fall with the leaves changing and all. I am a member of the C.A.F., and support them everywhere I go. I must have seen all of the C.A.F. planes four or five times, and enjoy talking to all the other mebers at the annual conference. I am trying to work my way up to crewing a plane but it takes awhile. You have to wipe them down and do several grunt tasks for quite a long time before you can move up to "crew" status. Its still a thrill just being around them. Anyway, when I do get up to Columbus this Fall, I am for sure going to swing down to Dayton before heading east into "in-law country" Thanks for the info, -=BAB=- Gunner [This message has been edited by Gunner (edited 06-01-2000).] IP: Logged

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