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Razer
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posted 05-25- 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you like to see more Japanese planes other then the Zero and the Ki-61?

Yes? Which one?

No? Why the hell not!?!

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Pachy
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posted 05-25- 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't be against a Betty. Especially if it can drop those kamikaze jets. Those suicide things would suit my pilots skills

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ReaperMan
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posted 05-25- 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReaperMan   Click Here to Email ReaperMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely! A Betty would be nice... Japanese need some bombers plus we could have a mission to re-create the demise of Yamamoto. Of course, you're free to do whatever you want

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weasel
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posted 05-25- 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to see a Betty. That Yammamoto mission sounds cool. 4 P-38's go after 4 zero's and 2 Betty's. No HUD, No enemy targets on the map, just a compas heading and 3 to 5 minutes of flying hoping to spot the general.
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Diego Lozano
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posted 05-25- 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say a Val first, then definately a Betty.

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weasel
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posted 05-25- 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... kamikaze missions where you are only suscessful if you smash your plane into a ship???

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 05-25- 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

For sure man.

I would say the betty or.

Another good fighter. We would actually maybe even use some earlier varient of the zero for earlier war stuff.

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Razer
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posted 05-25- 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HMMMMM, "Note to Self, never ask if they want a plane cause they will pick a bomber"

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Tony "Razer" Martin

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charmstar
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posted 05-25- 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmstar   Click Here to Email charmstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that the Val would be easier and nice to have, although I want to see a betty too. Also, I know there are some fst or fsd files of a Val floating around somewhere... might be a good starting point.

charm

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slk
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posted 05-25- 02:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Razer,

What is that Japanese plane you display in your posts? Has it been built, is that the Ki-61?? Is it available, where can I get it,
How come your finger always go's through the toilet paper???
Psi

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jedi
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posted 05-25- 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jedi   Click Here to Email jedi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty? Bah! Flying cigarette lighter!

How bout the N1K or the Ki-84?

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SchaF
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posted 05-25- 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SchaF   Click Here to Email SchaF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi
what about kavanashi n1k shiden..mitsubishi jm2 raiden..mitsubishi a7m reppu..nakadzijima ki43 hajabusa..and we still miss dc3 (even japan used this plane in ww2 as a transport plane)

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Razer
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posted 05-25- 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that's the Ki-61 in my tag.

It's moving slowly since i know nothing about DOF's and it needs major work on the new gear and gear doors.

I started on a Ki-84 last night and i'm about 40% done on the basic model. I also have working models of the Ki-43 and Ki-44.

After playing with the N1K in Aces High i want to do one of those also.

That's why i was wondering if people wanted more japanese planes.

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Tony "Razer" Martin

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[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 05-25-2000).]

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Jeeves
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posted 05-25- 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course we pick the bombers Other than the few variants f the 88 that are out, no one has released a new bomber!! I so wish I had the time and patience to learn... if I could have any planes I wanted- I would definitely pick bombers-- and why not- this is one of the few games where we can man the bombers stations. I'd love to see the B-24, B-25, B-26...and those are just the American ones A Betty would be great-- and I can't wait to see the He-111 (and a Condor would be nice)--or a German dive bomber (you know the one ) We need more bombers in this game!! In between classes this summer I am gonna see if my patience holds out fr learning how to model...but I an not getting my hopes up

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Tailslide
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posted 05-25- 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'd love to see the shinden finished.. I got the flight model all working, even the AI flies it but it needs a complete 3d model redo and skin. I still fly the unfinished one around just because it's got such a different feel to it.

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 05-25- 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhmm - Razer ?! Don't start a bomber - such projects could turn you completly crazy

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ArgonV
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posted 05-25- 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Razer, we need.... just about more of every thing! A bomber would be great! But fighters most WWII games dont have would be great as well! How bout a Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden? Or a Mitsubishi A7M1-2 Reppu? I would LOVE to see the Shiden finnished!! (I really feel this plane should be next in the line for you) Its a plane basicly no other game has done descently. Go for the Shiden. The FM I hear is basicly there.

Tailslide, how bout sending me that new SM and such?

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Tailslide
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posted 05-25- 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/Files/shinden-alpha1.zip

It's actually alpha 2 but I got too lazy to rename the file. Its got bits and pieces borrowed from the zero and other planes so make sure to have the contest pack installed. Also make sure the reverse.ppf airfoil is in your startup.ppf file.

TS

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Hippie
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posted 05-25- 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hippie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to see:

Ki44 "Tojo"
Val.
Kate.
Betty.

Hippie.

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ArgonV
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posted 05-25- 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tailslide, Thanks man!

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Himdog
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posted 05-26- 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Himdog   Click Here to Email Himdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Razer, yes I would like to see more Japanese planes, my vote would be the Frank, in my opinion it is the best Japanese fighter during WWII.
Himdog out

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mposis
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posted 05-26- 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mposis   Click Here to Email mposis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden I am working on.
It looks like a pig but it can outclimb a BF109G.
I might finish it in 3 months.

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Razer
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posted 05-26- 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how in the world are you modeling that?

It looks really easy that way. it took me 4 hours to do the Ki-84 model and i did it all by looking at an image in a book.

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mposis
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posted 05-26- 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mposis   Click Here to Email mposis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Razer,

Scan the top view and the side view of the 3d plan then texture them on 2 separate polygons. Make sure the polygons are the correct scale and then just rotate and move them in the correct position.

I think I already spent more than 8 hours on this. Like I said I might finish it in 3 months.

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Razer
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posted 05-26- 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for those of you that missed my other post, here is an image of the Ki-84

Thanks Mposis.
http://www.fightersquadron.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001797.html

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Tony "Razer" Martin

http://www.fshangar.com

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dauntless851
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posted 05-26- 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dauntless851   Click Here to Email dauntless851     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tony, you know you can ask me for scale drawings if you need them. Please don't do that memory thing again, ok?

Here are some of the Japanese planes I have scale drawings for:

Mitsubishi Ki-21 SALLY
Mitsubishi G4M1/3 BETTY
Kugisho P1Y1 Ginga
Kawanishi H8K
Mitsubishi G3M2 type 96 NELL
G8N1 RITA
Nakajima G5N2 13-shi (twin tail 4-eng. bomber)
Aichi D3A1/2 VAL
Nakajima B6N2 TENZAN
Nakajima B5N KATE
Kawanishi N1K2-j Shiden-Kai
Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden (JACK)
Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa (OSCAR)
Nakajima Ki-44
Mitsubishi F1M2 (PETE)
Ki-46 Dinah
Ki-84 Hayate
Kawasaki Ki-100
Ki-45
J7W1 Shinden
Nakajima Kikka

Let me know if you need anything.

Right now I am in rehearsal for the musical Zorba (so I haven't been on the computer much lately), but I should have a little time here and there over the next couple of weeks to scan something for you.

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Razer
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posted 05-26- 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to do a better job on the plane when i do it looking at an image other then using plans. I know, i know it wont be 100% accurate but i still do better that way.

I still like the images D, it helps to get the cross-sections to look right.

only so much you can see in a 2 image.

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Zero Pilot
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posted 05-27- 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zero Pilot   Click Here to Email Zero Pilot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Razer, Japanese Aircraft Are great. how about some eary ones: Like the A5M Claude? KI -27? The A6M1 zero with folding wingtips? Anyway these are just a few.

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Mighty
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posted 05-30- 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The three I remember reading about the most were the Val, Kate and Betty.

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JV44_Pye
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posted 05-30- 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JV44_Pye   Click Here to Email JV44_Pye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious about something more tham the jap plane in you screen shot, it's the 111.11fps, now tell me the spec of you PC and how you tweaked SDOE to get that High a frame count,, !!

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Razer
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posted 05-30- 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm running the following setup.

PIII 733/133
BF6 Abit Mobo
128 megs PC133 mem.
Voodoo3 3000 16 megs

There is an option to up the FPS in the INI file if your running a fast puter like me. I don't have SDOE installed on my system due to the thing crapping out on me. I think the default is 70 FPS max, so i'd look up near the top of the INI file for 70 and see what the command says. if it has something to do with fps then up it. Mines set on 130 and i can get that when i'm alone, with planes it stays around 70.

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Army puke SFC
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posted 05-31- 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Army puke SFC   Click Here to Email Army puke SFC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An 'Okha' ploted kamikaze bomb would do fine, just convert the shape from Pete Hawk's flyable V1, and add a three barrel rocket booster on the tail, and remove the pulse jet, and add twin tails and a canopy.

here is another short wwii history:
The Okha was dropped from a Betty at a 25 (?, could be more) mile range from its ship target, and the piloted bomb will glide to its target at high altitude(betty releases it at 20000+ft) Somewhere near the target the pilot will nose the Okha towards the target ship and fire the rocket boosters, accelerating it to over 600mph, maybe over mach1.

It is very much like flying Hawk's V1 in SDOE, except that it is a glider in 'transit-to-target' mode and is a guided rocket in 'terminal' phase, instead of the pulse-jet of the V1.
The Okha has a canopy for the pilot, who is sealed inside the kamikaze vehicle before takeoff, and has a twin tail, and is straight winged.

This is my suggestion.

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If you do not have Hawk's V1 d/l it at the Fighter Squadron Extreme site. His other projects, the F14, F15, A4, and the flyable Zeppelin are there.
They are cool!!!

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