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Arrowbase Pilot	posted 05-25- 03:41 AM Bonjour ! I have this skin in progress, the Spitfire VA model was taken from a french encyclopaedia, here it is: The text doesn't say from which country it came, the only information I have is Douglas Badre was the pilot in 1941. But the cocarde seems to be danish. I was wandering in FShangar and checking in the Spit section, I found a skin painted by TBear: This was from the RAAF 457th squadron. Similarity or mistake printing?!? I don't think that the TBear's painting is wrong. However, all the colors seem to be in place in my book (cyan, magenta, yellow and black). We can even see two painted Japanese flags (two victories undoubtedly), but those are of color violet (?!?). So what could be wrong. Was Douglas Bader ever been a pilot for the Danish aviation (as a trainer for example)? Now, I doubt it. I don't know what to think as my skin is almost finished. All is similar, id numbers, cocarde, flag on the tail, even the as card... Any information would be appreciated. ------------------ Bonne chance et bon vol ! Arrowbase http://shemzone.free.fr [This message has been edited by Arrowbase (edited 05-25-2000).] IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 05-25- 03:48 AM I think the text is totally wrong. This looks like one of those MkVIII that were used in the pacific (RAAF? RNZAF?). IP: Logged
Arrowbase Pilot	posted 05-25- 04:20 AM Yes Pachy, I think the same, but how do you explain the red color of the cocarde? The aussie was blue, the danish red, what was the new-zelander? In my opinion, both text and printing in the encyclopaedia are wrong. I guess the cyan and the magenta plates have been interchanged... I have started this skin as an oddness. Then (frowning), it will be a full oddness... The editor is ATLAS. I thought it was a quality warranty. It seems not... ------------------ Bonne chance et bon vol ! Arrowbase http://shemzone.free.fr IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 05-25- 07:56 AM Hi all, The Spit in question (A58-516) most certainly belongs to the RAAF. A58-516 is a Mk VIII that was delivered July '44 allocated 452 Sqn. It crashed on landing at Balikpapan July '45 and was converted to parts. The Skin (A58-615?)is also a Mk VIII. It was delivered to the RAAF in Sept '44 and allocated to 457 Sqn. It was subsequently converted to parts Feb '45. Both Sqn's (+ 79 Sqn) belonged to 80 Wing, RAAF. An educated guess is that the Ace of Spades denotes 80 Wing, hence why they appear on both aircraft. Why the red and white insignia on the tail ?? poor quality scan I reckon and was touched up incorrectly. Hope it helps. Cheers, ------------------ AGAS 5 Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation [This message has been edited by AGAS - 5 (edited 05-25-2000).] IP: Logged
Nat Pilot	posted 05-25- 08:42 AM AGAS... you're a wealth of unexpected information and a breath of fresh air Good going guy! ~Nat~ IP: Logged
Geo Cadet	posted 05-25- 08:44 AM Agas is that a MB5 you have as a logo IP: Logged
slk unregistered	posted 05-25- 09:06 AM Also if you notice the canopy seems to be slightly tinted, this pictyre was undoubtably a reproduction of a painting and sometimes the printing ink was only close. I've seen many pictures mis-tinted as I'm sure you all have, carry on... Psi IP: Logged
Arrowbase Pilot	posted 05-25- 09:07 AM Thanks a lot AGAS, But really, the illustration is almost what you can see and the tail is really red. Just for fun, I will try to do some transformation with Photoshop to recover the original colours. Anyway, thanks. As the skin already exists, I going to stop the red one... ------------------ Bonne chance et bon vol ! Arrowbase http://shemzone.free.fr IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 05-25- 05:39 PM Thankyou for your kind comments. My reference is: Wilson,S,(1988), 'The Spifire, Mustang and Kittyhawk in Australian Service', Aerospace Publications Pty Ltd. Of course, there could be another reason for the Ace of Spades on the tail - they could both be Ace's !!! (acknowledge lack of kill's on the aircraft though) Geo, My logo is a CAC CA-15 'Kangaroo'. A prototype that arrived too late for WW2 and was overtaken by the jet age (We retained the Mustang and got Meteors and Sabres intsead. It has a legend status in aviations circles here in Aust. It had the RR Griffon engine rated at 2,035 hp - It would have kicked some butt !! Cheers, ------------------ AGAS 5 Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation IP: Logged

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