posted 05-18- 07:39 AM               

and flyable V1s for target practice

posted 05-18- 09:44 AM               

"I wish I could, but I can`t" - What ? When I started making planes (actually only one is in a respectable state - the I16) I didn't know anything - what to do etc...

We got several tutorials and we got this forum. So why don`t you guys team up (or not) and start making the planes you want to see in the game ? It is not soo hard to make a "normal" beta plane. And you'll see after 3 or 4 months of constructing and messing around with your plane that you end up as a "half-guru" of OP ! Stop telleing us things like "I want to see this and that" ! Do it your own ! All you need is alot of time and nerves, compatible modeller software, OPS and some other tools.

1. Get all data (scale plans, technical data, pics etc) you can find for the plane you want to model

2. read the tutorials

3. model your plane

4. import to OPS

5. FM and DM

6. done

Remember! I started the same way as you, knowing nothing about OP and that stuff. Now that I´m able to build planes (more or less) all I can say to you is:

"MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN !"

dont get me wrong, this is not an advice or a piss on your shoes (still don`t know how to say that in correct english), just a tip

posted 05-18- 10:54 AM               

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posted 05-18- 02:46 PM               

Werner

posted 05-18- 02:52 PM               

You wouldn't have to go "whole hog" and deliver the bomber equivalent of the P-47 model. All you need to do is get the 3D model somewhere, chop it into its pieces, and then replace the pieces of the existing plane with your new pieces, and "tighten it all up" in OPS.

From the inside, sure, it'll still look like a Ju-88, except where you can see the wings or tail. But from the outside, and online, and in the missions and skins guys will do for it, it's a Flying Pencil In the meantime, you've learned how to use your 3D program and OPS. Maybe someone will love your project enough to do a cockpit for you. Maybe you'll pick up a "Team Pencil" along the way and turn out the best bomber ever.

But a Do-17 that looks (sorta) like a Do-17, flies like a Ju-88 and feels like one from the pilot seat, is STILL better than a Do-17 at the bottom of somebody else's 10-plane long "to-do" list, eh?

posted 05-18- 03:11 PM            

Seriously, though, a lot of people seem to think they need to know it all... 3D modeling, painting, FM hell, DMs and movable objects. That is, of course, totally wrong. If you think you can achieve something in some area, go for it! Volunteer! It's fun. Be fair and say "I can't DM, but damed it, I'm a good 3D modeler", or whatever.

Actually, Jedi's example of the jug isn't that bad. We're 4 on it. None of us could've made it single handed. None. Zur's great with FMs. None in the team but him could do it. JTs 3D models and texture mappings are quite something extra. My work on DMs and movable objects probably adds a little spice to the thingie. Dan's incredible feeling for the meaning of every single pixel of those tiny bitmaps makes the world of difference to the final result. I won't speak for the other team members, but if you'd ask me for paintwork, FMs or 3D modeling, I might be able to come up with the equivalent of a paper airplane, but don't count on it. White paint, I can do, but it would probably fly worse than a real thing, and look worse too

posted 05-18- 03:35 PM               

Seriously though, I doubt that I myself will get into a/c, maybe eventually, but doubt it, I just enjoy adding little touches to the game, little bit here, little bit there.. add to the overall feel and use of SDOE

~Nat~

Oh, Laika.. were you pissed at someone or sumthin when you wrote that first post above?? lol I know what you're getting at though, but I think you a/c builders gotta accept a certain amount of that kinda thing..one of the "perks of the trade" I guess, you all do a great job and I know you work with a passion... these Cadets just don't realise they are asking for a bite when this kinda thread gets posted over and over again by the next generation

Love you all

~Nat~

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posted 05-19- 04:58 AM               

With regard to ground objects a while ago
someone posted a reference to web sites
which included some existing 3d meshes for
things such as the M16 half track, etc.
The scary thing was the number of polys in
them. I have access to AutoCad at work,
and importing them into that boggled the
mind. I really had no idea how to proceed
then, or work things with OPS.

Ideally I'd like to be able to take
the B26B someone is working on and reverse
engineer the A20 series and also reverse
engineer a Mosquito B.IV, but don't hold
your breath...

posted 05-19- 05:14 AM               

To those that build the planes,ships,tanks & terrain....you bloody amaize me ! Firstly with your creativity and then your patience.

I've tried, oh yes I've bloody tried, and have failed miserably. I guess I'll just put on my painting overalls occasionaly and wheel a few aircraft out of the hanger and be content with that.

will I try again ? Fuggen oath I will mate!

To you all, the beers cold so help ya self...and leave the money on the fridge

Cheers,

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