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Pachy
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posted 05-13- 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

New: bubble canopy, textured wings, began FM work. Still small shading problems but they will get fixed.
Did I mention OpenPlane Studio rocks? Well it does. Adding the retractable tailwheel was a piece of cake. Thanks Bryan!

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Luny
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posted 05-13- 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luny   Click Here to Email Luny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is "the" one we were missing

Allez Pachy !! t'es en train de nous faire ce dont je rève depuis que j'ai balancé 350 balles dans ce jeu.

Trans (short) : freakin great....

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lfbpro
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posted 05-13- 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lfbpro   Click Here to Email lfbpro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On est les champions on est les champion!!!
hum sorry for that war shot ;-)
wonderfull pachy great work.
just one thing will you model the gun placement on the wings?
go on man!

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Pachy
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posted 05-13- 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Merci les gars. But this plane is not for French pilots only

Fixed wings shading, fixed wing position and converted original typhoon skin.

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slk
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posted 05-13- 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most AXcellent Pachy, really looks accurate.
This is my favorite of the British WWII A/C.
How does it compair to the Hurricane and the Typhoon, performance wise???
Psi

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STef
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posted 05-13- 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for STef   Click Here to Email STef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JF stands for Jean-Francois, but what about the E?

Couldn't resist.

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Pachy
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posted 05-13- 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
slk: right now, this Tempest flies like a 5.3 Typhoon. That is, like a double decker bus Seriously though, the Tempest is mainly an improved Typhoon with more powerful engine and an ultra-thin, low drag wing. Despite its size and weight it was quite maneuvrable and dived like a bomb.

STef: I though JF-E stood for jeune femme epanouie, but who knows

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 05-13- 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Lo Patchy. Looking great.

About those cutaways. I looked at the library and There was only a cutaway of the tempest II.

Thats my most favorite of the typhoon, tempest family.

Its the one using the radial engine. The regular tempest would have used a radial but:

"Certainly the best of all the wartime fighters, the Mk II was tragically subjected to prolonged delays, mainly because of official disbelief that an air-cooled engine could prove suitable. When a Centaurus was installed be Camm in the prototype Typhoon II (thin-wing, later named Tempest) in August 1942, Air Marshal Freeman ordered the engine removed. This aircraft ws there by delayed a full year."

"The best Tempest of all was powered by the shamefully nneglected Centaurus radial. This Mk II aircraft flew as a prototype at Langley on 28 June 1943. Quieter and less tiring to fly then the Sabre versions, the Mk II was the only mark to remain in the RAF as a fighter after the war. From it Hawker derived the Fury and Sea Fury."

What a crock eh? They could have had an amazing plane YEARs earlier if they wouldn't have been so thick headed. Also its says that since everyone was SO into the Spitfire that they had to put typhoon squads at different bases then the Spits.

"There was at the time an amazingly powerful prejusice against fighters that did not look like a Spitfire (to the extent that early Typhoon squadrons had to be based at airfields without Spitfire squadrons), And Camm admitted this played a part in deciding the new wing shape!"

So anyways. It could still have some usefull stuff for ya. I'll try to upload it later and it could be a great addition to the game as a late/post war british fighter.

Or an alternate history. (in this alternate the high ups wern't so dumb)

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Jerry
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posted 05-13- 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky, the USAAF could have used the F4U Corsair as a long range escort for bombers in Europe 12 to 18 months before the P-51D but turned it down because it was a "Navy" plane. How many bomber crews were lost because of "Army" pride is anyone's guess. The British Generals didn't have a monopoly on arrogance or stupidity. Sad but true.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 05-14- 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Yep for sure. This whole Navy, army, airforce stuff is crap.

Really they should all be one force all working closely together.

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Pachy
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posted 05-14- 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting guys. But I thought the Tempest Mk II was delayed because of oil temperature problems with the Centaurus engines. They only got it right (by installing and annular oil radiator) after studying a captured FW190. In the meantime, because they needed so much that plane they put the Sabre engine back, despite its known problems (overheating also). But air cooled engine have a BIG advantage: they're less vulnerable because there is no radiator.

Now, the Centaurus Tempest look really brutal. One of them will surely appear soon

About the last pic. You can see a missing polygon on top nose. Non-coplanar sh*t. Back to work

Spanky: thanks. I'm also looking for a GOOD 3-way of a typhoon. I'd like to fix the one in the game, the nose is obviously too big, but I'm not sure it is similar to the Tempest. Well, late Typhoons that had a bubble canopy and a 4-prop blade did look like Tempests, but the one in the game is an earlier model.

As for the generals being stupid and arrogant, the french high ups of 1940 deserve a special mention for being criminally stupid, arrogant, and unimaginative.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 05-14- 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Well I guess we have conflicting stories

Thats what my book on british fighters says anyway. Probly a bit of both.

bout the oil rad. What do you mean? The Tempest II uses a leading edge oil rad. Doesn't the FW190 use a round one up near the engine?


K I can scan a Cut away AND 3 way for the typhoon IB

The cutaway is the same as most of the ones I already have on my site.

The 3way is on the same page.

It looks like this but I could not reduce it so much and hence keep quality ALOT higher.

IF this is what you want let me know and how big it should be in pixels.
I could do all 100 out of this book really.


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closterman
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posted 05-15- 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for closterman   Click Here to Email closterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MERCI PACHY!!

Enfin je vais avoir mon Grand Charle!!

On va maintenant pouvoir dire que SDOE est maintenant complet.
Continue ton bon travail!

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Arrowbase
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posted 05-15- 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arrowbase   Click Here to Email Arrowbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*lol* He he he... The young miss, dressed with elegance, just sexy under her tiny Croix de Lorraine, makes feverish the eyes of the young men of France.

Superbe taf Pachy. Bravo.


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bjorn
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posted 05-15- 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good work, Pachy. How far along the road are you? When can we expect to get a feel of it ourselves?
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/Bjorn.

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