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Veracity
Cadet
posted 04-28- 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Veracity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone help me out and explain how to use "trim" when I'm flying. I get around okay. I mostly get negative scores, but am getting better. I've fought online once, and I just couldn't turn around on the guy and get a shot on him. He said I should be using "trim". Now I don't want to go back online until I know how to use it. Thanks.

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Spyder
Pilot
posted 04-28- 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tap the cursor up/down key repeatedly for trim up/down. Tap the cursor left/right key for trim left/right.
Usually it helps to trim a little before takeoff so your plane doesn't start to tip over as you make your run, that's what I do anyhow.
As you gain speed and alt you will need to trim here and there for level flight, usually after takeoff you will find the plane starts to roll a certain way as it gains speed.
In a dive don't over trim if you find your nose keeps coming up at high speed or you'll find yourself with hardly any elevator to pull up!
cheers

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Nat
Pilot
posted 04-28- 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just a way to "balance" your aircraft in flight so that with the stick in the central position you fly as close to flat and level as possible, to get used to using it fly a mission from take off, you don't need much altitude, but take it up to full throttle and you will see thet the nose probably tries to pull up on it's own, and that it rolls to one side, get used to using the cursor keys to level the plane out, using 5 taps on a key, then wait to see the effect, once your close to level use one or two taps to fine adjust it

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Veracity
Cadet
posted 04-28- 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Veracity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

So I guess I can trim into a turn to corner tighter? And trim up arrow to pull out of a hard dive (I've been plunging into the sea lately trying to dive-bomb that sub!)?

Now what about feathering the prop? I hit-ctrl-p to feather it once and the engine turned off. Am I supposed to make some kind of adjustments when the engine is off, or just hit ctrl-p again?

Thanks for your replies.

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Tailslide
Pilot
posted 04-28- 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Control-P feathers the prop even though it doesn't actually look feathered. Your plane will glide much better. Useful if you run out of fuel or your engine dies..

Control 5,6,7,8 will feather single engines in a multi engine plane.

TS

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Himdog
Pilot
posted 04-28- 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Himdog   Click Here to Email Himdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Veracity, first I'm not a pro but I don't think that using trim is going to help you turn tighter the only thing trim will do is let you fly your plane a little easier. Personaly I don't use trim, I think that using it makes for bad practice. Think about it... if you use trim because the plane is pulling to the right and you want to make a turn, you are just not going to turn as sharp to the right as compared to not having the trim on. I think you would be better off if you used your flaps to turn instead and maybe slow down a little too. Again I'm not a pro and this is my opinion I just don't see how using trim will help you turn better personally I believe it would do the opposite.
Cheers
Himdog out

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Veracity
Cadet
posted 04-28- 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Veracity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The opposite effect, really? I hope not. It seems like if my plane is tipping left and I want to turn hard right trimming right would be a good idea. But obviously I'm just a beginner.

I am really glad to finally learn about feathering and trimming, tho. I wonder if anyone else has any tips about controling in-flight dynamics. There are still a few people who are just discovering this game and trying to get good at it.

I have a tip for anyone out there who is a beginner like me: Use F5 to switch your view to another fighter and then F1 to get in the cockpit. DON'T take over the controls, but just ride along as an observer. Watch how the AI pilots fight. You can learn a lot that way. I didn't understand how important changing engine speeds is until I tried this. The AI pull back and push up the throttle all the time when executing dogfighting maneuvers. Currently I'm trying to master the "Chandelle" and "Brake Turn".

It's good to see that this group is very active. Thanks to everyone for their quick and informative replies. I'm looking forward to fighting online again and perhaps joining a squadron.

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Nat
Pilot
posted 04-28- 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Veracity, the problem you are having is exactly why you use trim, see this problem can be caused if you don't have a self adjusting flight stick, so you'e able to bring your plane back level,it's also very handy if you loose your outer wing, you can actually fly alot of these planes if you are good at using trim and rudder even if they have half a wing missing.. though my advice is bail out, it's very good practice to try it though.

If you want to turn tighter than the guy in front, use rudder.. I kow this from experience, I don't have pedals so I can't, but as an example, I flew out against my buddy JV44 Qualcast, both in Spit VB's, it ended up a turning match obvioulsy, he was on my tail and I couldn't out turn him, I was pulling a steady 5.2g's on the edge of black out, and he was still flying faster and tighter than me, and getting hits on me all the time.. This was purely because, although we had the same turning circle, using rudder gave him a tighter turn for a few seconds allowin him to keep getting good shots at me, other wise we'd have been there till we ran out of engine power and had to break.

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spin
Pilot
posted 04-28- 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rudder and flaps can improve your turning radius. Rudder doesn't cost you energy as quickly as flaps do.

So try rudder (I use a twist type stick (MS Precision Pro) and then if a real turning battle try adding flaps (but watch your speed).

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Tailslide
Pilot
posted 04-28- 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Trim can help you turn better in some planes when you are going fast (zooming down). The mossie especially benefits from a little back trim before attacking a ground target.

TS

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Jv44~Siggi
Pilot
posted 04-28- 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not what I use trim for.

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Veracity
Cadet
posted 04-28- 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Veracity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What then, Siggi, do you use trim for?

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Jv44~Siggi
Pilot
posted 04-29- 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Er...keeping my joystick warm?

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