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Author	Topic: P51B update.. look what's getting a face lift.
Razer Pilot	posted 04-10- 08:06 PM Well has you can see i'm touched up the fuse some and it now smooths perfectly. the new cockpit framing is being touched up and i have to map the other side of the fuse. (as soon as i figured that out i'm also going to touch up the cockpit is i can. And yes i'm going to leave the picture of the chick on the dash. I'm also going to add a few new things but i can't tell you what those are. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com [This message has been edited by Razer (edited 04-10-2000).] IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 04-10- 09:01 PM HEY!!! Mine never looks that good, it usually is smoking and shatterring to a million pieces..... Actually mine usually is a P-51B190190... IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-10- 09:13 PM LOL ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:09 AM Well looks like i might be posting an image of a new feature not currently present on the Mustangs. No it's not moving canopy, though i do have a P51D that has it (thanks to Razor747) but this is something else that will make it look more real. I've also added it to the P51D, and in Planepack 5.4 you should see some great new mustangs to fight the germans with... ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:12 AM Twin 75mm AT guns? IP: Logged
semmern Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:14 AM Is that a Malcolm hood, or the standard framed canopy?? Oh, another thing: Couldn't anyone use ten mins of their lives slaving over AC3D and OPS to make a Tiffie Mk.1b with bubble canopy? IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:15 AM Well as we say down under.....'come in spinner' Cheers AGAS 5 ------------------ Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:16 AM OK, let me put this another way, It's not really NEW, but it is something the 3D model should have had a long time ago. i'm working on a HOOD version also will probably be a P51C but i still have to figure out how to map the sides with different textures. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:19 AM Hey Tony I've got a P-51B I modified with the Malcolm canopy and Polish RAF skin into a Mustang Mk III and also an Apache with a reshaped fuselage and green paint job. I'll send em to ya if you want to play with em at all. Otherwise I'll just modify your new ones and see how they come out... ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:21 AM Razer, Wasn't ther a more realistic prop that you or someone was working on for the P51? I think the prop looks kinda goofy that is on there. ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:24 AM Well .... was I close ? Tony your doing great work here, keep it up.... and many thanks. Cheers, AGAS 5 ------------------ Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 07:39 AM The P51B already had a more realistic prop and spinner. (check it out to see what i'm saying) This was added to the P51D months ago but i never realesed it and lost it in a HDD formate a long with my spitfire MK XIV. I will update the P51D with the new spinner but the prop was a tad different then the B so i'll re do it. Jedi- cool i have a hood cockpit ready to go, (thanks to roughboy) but i still have a new things i want to add to the fuse. plus i still don't know how to map boths sides of the fuse. Jedi, think you can help me out? On a differnt note: i did get the new wings of the Ki-61 in game last night. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com [This message has been edited by Razer (edited 04-11-2000).] IP: Logged
Spyder Pilot	posted 04-11- 08:47 AM Is it WEP? ------------------ IP: Logged
Crankshaft Pilot	posted 04-11- 09:03 AM How about a P51H! 4 20 mm cannons. That will give any 190 a bad hair day. Also handy for chewing up JU88s. Just make the Dallas canopy slide and Ill be happy Keep Em Comin Guys! Crankshaft IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 04-11- 09:13 AM Hmm, Never really fly the "B". I check it this evening. As I recall someone else was working on mapping a high detail Prop that was looking sweet. Can't remember who but I would like to see its progress. Thanks to all you propnuts ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner IP: Logged
dauntless851 Pilot	posted 04-11- 09:58 AM Sounds like the Mustang's engine exhaust pipes to me. Is that it Razer? Brought to you by the Dauntless for a better Campaign. ------------------ IP: Logged
semmern Pilot	posted 04-11- 10:12 AM Errrr.....Brought to you by the Dauntless for a better campaign?????? You sure you were sober when you wrote that?? Hehe IP: Logged
dauntless851 Pilot	posted 04-11- 10:35 AM Sober semmern? "Hick", "hick" what do you mean "hick" sober? Raaaaaaaaaaaalphhhh!! lol Actually, it's just a play on the words that Jeeves has in his dauntless signature (Brought to you by the campaign for a better Dauntless). That's all. ------------------ IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 04-11- 11:05 AM Spanky here.... MMM... exhaust pipes. read 3D pipes would be great. IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 11:22 AM HEHEHE No, no , no, 3D pipes have already been added It's not WEP since it's not possible with the code. Think more in the 3D model area. I'm trying to make the models look better. all the Mustangs will have sliding cockpits and a few other details. but it's model related. Gunner, DanW was working on that, havn't heard about that since i think he took that job. It would most likly never get used like the P38 MOD. i'm using the same texture as the P51D since i want these to be used. As soon as i get the cockpit framing done i can take some images closer to show off the new things. i'm going to be working on it some tonight so you might see something then, but i'm not making any promises. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 11:30 AM You know, i might need to chill on this. It will be like the Star Wars Movie all over again. I get this thing all built up and when it comes out people would expect more. It's not a step forward for SDOE, it's just something i thought should have been there and i'm trying to make the planes more detail. (well with in reason) ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 04-11- 11:53 AM Well HOPEFULLY, Razer is adding a better tail section to the Mustang It needs to be more round. I have a prop and spinner mod that was adapted from Razer's p51b. Also, the whole fuselage could be rounded out a bit for that matter! I still have the Mustang remapping project, but I pushed it aside to work on the Jug. Now, the p47 spoiled me and I dont want to mess with the old mustang again. I would LOVE to see a new Mustang 3D model. I would go so far as to request to texture map it as well. Similar to what JT did with the jug. Currently, I am remapping another aircraft.....but it is going very slow. The results should be pretty good though. IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 04-11- 12:23 PM Tony-- Not sure what you mean about the fuselage side mapping. The original P-51B I worked from had two separate fuselage sides mapped, as do the Mustang Mk III and new Apache I built. If your new one doesn't, I'd be glad to remap the fuselage textures for ya. It basically involves cutting the fuse in half, mapping each side, and then welding it back together. Just let me know if I can help... I was thinking about reworking the P-51D as well with opening canopy, spinner that spins, new prop, new exhaust stacks, new tailplane etc, but it sounds like 3 or 4 guys are already on that job--which allows me to switch over to a couple of other projects... ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 12:43 PM Jedi- that stuff will all be done in a few days. I'm going to make some nice pipes tonight, but i'm not siure what you mean by tailplane.. i'll show you what i have later, still at work so i can't do anything right now. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 04-11- 01:04 PM Jedi is talking about the ass end of the aircraft. IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 01:25 PM i had the feeling that was what he was talking about. This seems be be something the new P51B doesn't have a problem with but for the life of my i can't picture the back of the P51D right now. Of course i'm in Webpage mode right now so all i can picture in my head is HTML ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 04-11- 02:06 PM Hehe yep I just meant "3D-izing" the stabs, elevator and rudder so that they're not "flat." Been talkin to Dan about a whole new Stang, primarily addressing giving her a little more "curvaceous" bod, but sounds like you guys have it pretty much under control. Not gonna reinvent what other guys are workin on when there are Macchis and Mitchells to be conjured... Built the "placeholder" plane for the B-25 the other night. Looks pretty silly, and I don't know if it'll fly yet, but OPS didn't upchuck, so so far, so good... ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 04-11- 03:14 PM Spanky here... Oh the 2d tail on all the planes is my biggest pet peeve. I HATE IT!!! You look back and you can't tell if it was shot off or your just looking at its infinte thiness P38 could use some work on the model. Some parts don't have smoothing and such. IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-11- 03:22 PM that wasn't on my list, and probably wont since every part i make in AC3D has F'ed up lighting.. parts i've made for the new B have been fixed by others. anything and everything i've ever made in AC3D, be it the B25 or the Hellcat i was playing with, or the F86 Sabre, they all had F'ed up lighting and i have no idea how to fix other then sending it to someone that has MAX and knows how to fix it. plus the tail would have to be mapped again. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 04-11- 03:45 PM Hey, just build me a new 3d model and I will do the mapping and smoothing . I am smoothing out Jedi's Corsair right now, and I have most of the dark spots worked out. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 04-11- 05:12 PM Spanky here.. Great stuff Dan, always evolving I love it. IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 04-11- 06:23 PM Well, here is a teaser for the Corsair. It's been painted all blue just to see if the dark spots are worked out. I'm not going too fast, so don't expect something anytime soon. The mapping will be similiar to what is on the P47. There will be two tiff files. The cowling should have a little bit higher detail than the rest of the aircraft. IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 04-11- 08:52 PM Thanks Dan, I've been hoping someone would do this. Take ya time mate, the end product will be worth it. I think us painters will be eternally grateful. Cheers, AGAS 5 ------------------ Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 04-11- 08:58 PM The smoothed p51b looks awesome ! Would love to see some 3d tailfeathers as well. Please don't do any work in max on the default planes that come with the game like the p51d tho.. just the act of exporting to max and back into SDOE will add more polygons due to the .obj exporter being limited to 4 sided polys. Cheers! TS IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-12- 10:48 AM Tailslide- Yes the new fuse with the smoothing is very sweet. I used the old rear fuse and just molded it to the front fuse. Now, i have good news and bad news. Which do you want first? Ok, the good news. i think the new version of the P51B will rock when it's released. Bad News, I've had the final AC3D problem. After playing with the new tails last night, AC3D closed for no reason loosing all the work i did. I'm putting all my current projects on hold. Ki-61 P51 B P51 C Updating the P51 D I have Max 3 and i'm going to spend the next few weeks learning it and ditching AC3D. If you want to take up anyone of the P51's for the time being then cocntact me and i'll send what i have. Ki-61 is still going to be my baby so you can't pick it up ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 04-12- 12:02 PM Razer, Tried to D/L the P51-B and the link could not be found? I wanted to to check out that prop. ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 04-12- 03:01 PM Well, if you're gonna let 'em cool off, I might have a go at the 51B and 51D. I like updating models a lot more than starting from scratch with em. Where ya hidin 'em? ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 04-12- 09:11 PM Jedi, you should have some gift's in your mail ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged

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