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Michael Harrison
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posted 03-23- 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My activenet contact says that the servers are all running as they should.

I've been able to connect the couple of times I tested it.

Are they working for you?

If not, which ones, and what happens?

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goth
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posted 03-23- 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goth   Click Here to Email goth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next time I'll make a list. I do know that last night Cali12 was not responding with any active rooms for me.

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Razer
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posted 03-23- 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most of the servers don't have rooms. Cali12 has no rooms and everyone has moved to Igateway.net at night. Just so people know. It's the new base of operations.


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Condor
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posted 03-23- 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condor   Click Here to Email Condor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael,

I have been checking every night and the only server which is showing lobbies is the igateway.net server. No other servers are responding to me? Some how I don't think the cali12 server is "running as it should".

Just my 2 cents. I really love to have cali12 back up and running.

Condor out

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nealg
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posted 03-23- 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As of last night, only igateway, US3 ( I think...maybe 2) and UK1; all the rest, no lobbies. If I check the server listing, the dates of the ones not accessible are over a week old...as old as Mar 13 for California 12. The working ones show the current date.

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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 03-23- 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such innocence. Next question..."Coo, how's the damage-model online? You guys getting any kills yet?"

BOLLOCKS!!!

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Jetlag
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posted 03-23- 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jetlag   Click Here to Email Jetlag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the UK using a V90 modem @ 46667 connect I can only see lobbies on uk1, nl and stockholm which are under 300 pings. Everything above 300 is invisible.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-23- 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Yep the rooms on alot of the serves arn't there.

Its not like we need alot. Just a couple.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 03-23- 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, According to my source, at least one of the servers had run out of disk space. He's sent a message to the admin over there and hopefully they'll be fixed by tomorrow.

I'll check again then and see how they're doing.

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Propwash
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posted 03-24- 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Propwash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to stay on that monorail Siggi.
Give it up. Harrison isn't going to do shit for us. He's got our cash. Suck it up or move it out.
We have kept this fuckin sim alive for much longer than it natural life should be and we can't even get a fuckin patch!
If it were not for the people that have put so much time and talent into this dog it would have been dragged off to the pound and shot a long time ago.
I am tired of asking while he is fuckin around with this R/C bullshit. Meanwhile we are being treated like a bunch of red headed stepchildren.
Face it, we been hoodwinked, we been bamboozled, WEVE BEEN DICKED!!

Prop out!

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Stark
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posted 03-24- 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Prop... try hitting the right thread will ya?

-Stark

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Zurawski
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posted 03-24- 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Prop ...

You kiss your mother with that mouth?

What a fuck'n jerk! (oops!)

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Jaguar
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posted 03-24- 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you think that will help any?

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Snake
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posted 03-24- 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just can't help but notice how sad Propwash is.
He is probably gonna tell me if I want a fight he'll give me one or somthing like that.
hahaha
He thinks hes so tough, ohhh I'm so scared of a guy who types out insults to me every 12 hours or so I go online. Oh no what will I do? Should I post a reply and risk getting called a silly billy again? No I don't think so.

Carwash: at least he adds spice to these forums. hahaha

Micheal Harrison good work so far and your R/C thing looks really good.

Snake
Well, what does Carwash have to say now? My guess is that he'll resort to mocking my heritage. Before you do that, Carwash, ask yourself did you celebrate St. Patricks Day?

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Propwash
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posted 03-24- 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Propwash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I kiss your mother with that mouth. And here's your snake pal!
You people know its an online disaster and always has been. For god sake, sack up and speak up. Stop crying in your pillows.

Prop out!

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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 03-24- 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I quite liked it myself. No mincing of words there, concise, sharp and articulate. Gave me and my brother a bloody good laugh as well.
As we say in England..."Give it some!!!"

What is this "R/C" anyway? Is he buggering about with radio controlled airplanes now? I saw something about R/C planes being used for air-combat games; is MH involved?
More to the point, do they have little guns? Bombs? Can the users make their own?
I want a Stuka, with a big brick instead of the bomb. Will MH be present at the tournies? Will he be wearing body-armour? Just think...all those little planes buzzing about. MH in the judges stand. I suppose it'll have plexiglass screens all around, like in Robo-Wars. But my Stuka will have a fucking great brick, probably a breeze-block, but made out of concrete. It'll be an accident, but I won't need to aim or even drop the brick. I'll just fly the whole frigging plane through the screen. The little gas-tank will be full of course. I wonder if a damage-patch will sort out the carnage.
I'll be wanting a medal, naturally, something like what Erich Rudell got. Nice!

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Snake
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posted 03-24- 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What?

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Zurawski
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posted 03-24- 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blind ignorance is bliss isn't it?

Funny how Michael is expected to "drop all" to assist the plight of FS with no finacial reimbursment ...

... all the while pissing on the projects that put food on his table and clothes on his families back.

So to that end ... If you frick'n whiners have "had it" with FS move on.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 03-24- 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Evidently Prop, you've conveniently forgotten that we haven't gotten any of your money.

We haven't seen a dime since FS shipped and never will from any sales of that game. Every cent of your money has gone straight to Activision and stayed there.

We do not receive any money from the sales of FS and never will.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 03-24- 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like some of the servers have been fixed, with the notable exception of most of the official "Activision" servers.

I've sent off another request to get them fixed.

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Zoycite
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posted 03-24- 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prop your an ass, go away, I find your babble rather boring.

Michael,

I wish my 50 bucks did go to you (parsoft/inertia). Its been the best 50 bucks I have ever spent, Thanks


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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 03-24- 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MH, we had all this out 8-odd months ago. Nobody expected you to help-out, considering you would get nothing and had to put food on the table etc. But, under the condition that it wouldn't happen quickly, you gallantly volunteered to sort out a sim that had been released in a piss-poor state. We hailed you as 'The Good Guy' and activision as a bunch of cheap crooks.
You then received mucho kudos, as befitted your hero status.
We then got a few promises from you about how you hoped to have the patch "finished by the weekend" or "at the start of the new year"
It's march 2000 now. Squad play remains dead. We understand, from your site's info page, that work progresses on the big patch. I'm curious to know why it wouldn't have been sensible, in your opinion, to put out a patch that addressed solely the damage issue online? Just a little patch for that prob would have kept the squads playing and SDoE online would probably have been huge by now.
As it is the lobbies are a mere shadow of what they should be.
Please tell me, am I missing something here? If not we'd like all the kudos back please...I'd like to re-locate mine, ta very much.

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bomber
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posted 03-24- 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bomber   Click Here to Email bomber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem with not getting the patch is that a lot of guys will think twice before buying anything that follows. I think that it turns out to be a no win situation for everyone including MH.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 03-24- 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Siggs,

Things don't always work out the way you hope. There are any number of things that, had they gone the way we wanted, would have ensured several finished patches, possibly new features, etc.

They didn't go the way we wanted. I haven't had the free time I expected, either at work or at home.

I did not ask for your hails and kudos. I do not come here looking for either one. if you think that's the case, you are quite mistaken.

One reason that there hasn't been "one" patch for net play is that we operate from one codebase. Given our size and our company focus over the last year, it didn't make sense to maintain several codebases as I patched FS code and worked on designs and such for potential and new projects.

This essentially means that you can have all the work we've done (which means current bugs) up to this point in a FS patch, or you can have nothing. At this point I have FS running again with a few graphics bugs which are due to be fixed as part of our current project. I will be testing it and if I don't find anything too horrible, I'll release it as the next beta.

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Crankshaft
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posted 03-24- 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crankshaft   Click Here to Email Crankshaft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have yet to find a flight on the servers
that are accessed via SDOE. The other night I could see games on the UK servers but when I went into demons I saw the pings there at 9999 as were a couple others.
Ok my problem, which hopefully will clear up
my first one. I am confused at to what I need to connect to said servers. After CD install, I ran the "FSC151b5" patch, Planepack 5.3, and 5.3a. Is there something missing? Something not letting me see flights on the servers? I can connect great on Kali using the IPX protocal, but trying to find a wingman is like trying to find a hooker who takes American Express! Any Ideas?

Regards,
BlueBalls

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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 03-24- 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Click Here to Email Jv44~Siggi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My answer to that, Mike (old pal, old buddy ), is "Open Communication"

You could have posted, a few months ago, something like this:

"Well guys, I've made a few promises, given the impression that things were going to be sorted pretty soon...but...things have gotten squirrily. A whole lot of un-forseen shit has come down and I'm lucky if I'm able to put in a single hour a week on SDoE. This means the patch could be many months away and probably will be. I do intend to complete it, but B17-2 will very likely have been out for some time before SDoE is fixed. There's really nothing I can do about this, it's just the way things have panned out. I hope you can all bite your teeth hard and try to live without online squad play for the forseeable future...I will complete, just no idea now when that will be. Cheers suckers! ( last bit's a little joke of mine, DON'T GET ALL LAREY ON ME NOW! )

Well, what do you reckon? Reasonable or what? Yes, you know it makes sense!

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esox
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posted 03-25- 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for esox   Click Here to Email esox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crankshaft,
That patch is the beta and is not flown online very much. You will find much more action on the normal SDOE 1.5 servers. Make sure you have installed:

1.5 patch
5.3 plane pack
5.3a patch
And are running SDemons.exe (not App.exe)

More info is available at: www.fightersquadron.com/warpaint/standard.htm

Also, you can check the action on the servers at: http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/?page=http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/sdoe_servers.asp

Hope this helps

Esox=FC=

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slk
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posted 03-25- 01:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Zoy, if you don't like it get out, don't air your crap to some of the others that see the effort that has been put forth in this sim. How do you think that you make others feel with that talk. Others that
have fun with this that don't see it as a profit or loss, but as just something to do thats kinda fun.
As Jay Leno would say, SHUDDUP
As I would say, GO AWAY and don't let the door hit ya in the puss...
Psi

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Crankshaft
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posted 03-25- 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crankshaft   Click Here to Email Crankshaft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what your saying sir, is that what you guys fly online at the servers is the old flight model? Are you boys flying the Corsair, the Zeke, the Jug, and all the new
aircraft, on the servers?

Regards,
Crank

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Spyder
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posted 03-25- 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crankshaft, you need the first official patch to see anyone on the servers, v1.5. Install that directly after the cd install less you edit your sdemons.ini and keyboard.inp file and it fails to update because of this.
It requires the standard ini/inp files as above to install properly. If you have altered your ini/inp files just copy them someplace and grab the ones off the cd until after the update.
Slk, airing the crap as you say can be productive, if we never said a thing would 1.5 have been the final word? Probably.
That doesn't mean I support abusive comments neither, just a right to be heard.
Either way, I would still like to think nay's as well as yay's are still a part of free speech on this board.
Propwash's posts, I just think they're funny and I find his/her right to speak their mind just as correct as anyone else's.
:P

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Yardstick
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posted 03-25- 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cranksharft,

The flight models are incorporated into the plane packs. 1.51beta contains net and game code related fixes. People running the beta will not be able to see others running the 1.5 patch in the lobbies.

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Crankshaft
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posted 03-25- 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crankshaft   Click Here to Email Crankshaft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a reason some guys dont fly the beta patch (APP.exe) online? I am confused still, pardon my slowness, (to many inverted landings).

Regards,
Crank

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esox
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posted 03-25- 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for esox   Click Here to Email esox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crank
Almost everyone still flies the 1.5 version for several reasons- framerate, graphic anomalies, some bugs...
I actually prefer it, but most people prefer 1.5. This will be the "standard" until MH's newer patch comes out.

The flight models and planes are all contained within 5.3 and 5.3a. The newest planes must be downloaded seperately. Flying the newest planes can be tricky due to the fact that not everyone has them all, and there are diferent versions. Soon, there will be a pack for all of these planes. WWI pack is already out .

Hope this helps,

Esox=FC=

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slk
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posted 03-25- 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its Psi not slk Spyder.
And your right about the right to be heard,
but I think there is another forum for that
am I right???
My point is the blindsiding and the personal
attacks, everyone has the right to speak.
But words should be chosen a little more wisely as to not make any topic a personal one, thats all I was saying...
PSI

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Spyder
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posted 03-25- 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I think it's better to be upfront.
Just someone's way of expressing themselves I guess.

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Propwash
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posted 03-27- 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Propwash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry if my rather gruff tone has effected your tender nature. Censorship, or the want of it is a menacing thing.
Dare I say, If you can't handle the direct (not blindsided) approach with strong words for inphases then you should be the one to take your leave.
Yours in Civil disobedience,

Propwash

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Sv
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posted 03-27- 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate putting my golf shoes on.

-Sv

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bomber
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posted 03-27- 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bomber   Click Here to Email bomber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say that the patch thing is not just an issue for SDOE but for all sims. We as the consumers must clearly stare our discontent or we have no hope of getting the kind of service we should have a right to expect from the sim producers. If MH is inocent of having conspired to sell an incomplete product thats fine. What troubles me is that if he and other like him will inadvertantly suffer when there is a failure to produce the product that they advertise. Now I could leave and not come back but that is not going to help anyone. I have and will again state that it is in MH's best interest to speedly produce a patch. I don't really care one way or the other about the patch the patch itself is a secondary issue. The issue here is the fulfillment of a promise that is the contract between a manufactor and the consumer.

IMHO

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Zoycite
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posted 03-27- 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
{Yawn}

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Jerry
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posted 03-27- 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post Zoy. Insightful.

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