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Snake
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posted 03-11- 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just thinkin that transports would be really be cool to kill and fly and be really useful for mission building. It would really add atmosphere to this game. Maybe the detail could be really low and simple stuff so we could put lots in a mission.
Some cool ones would be the C-47 and some gliders.


Snake

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-11- 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

For sure man. We need at least a C-47 just for some fun in missions. But gliders would be cool too.

Would people accept a hack b17 transport? Just a B17 with all the guns taken off, the ports all covered and 2 engines taken off?


We could call it the C17 or the B17T.

I think it would work for now.

[This message has been edited by Spanky the Mad Dog (edited 03-11-2000).]

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-11- 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

I just pulled the guns and 2 extra engines off the b17 I think it would be cool.

Its a little under powered for some reason even though it had no bombs and i can't actually get rid of the ball turret and top turret.

Some wacky OPS thing.

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Raider
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posted 03-11- 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider   Click Here to Email Raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Snake, Spanky

Zoycite and I have the C-47 on our list after the Spad XIII and Fokker EIII. We plan to have low poly paratroopers in the loadout too.

Raider 33rd~GS

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-12- 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Cool great to hear.

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Werner Molders
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posted 03-12- 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raider- SWEET! Any idea when work will begin?

Werner

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Snake
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posted 03-12- 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool we can bomb them with men!!!!
This will be really good though!
Thanks
Snake

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Zoycite
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posted 03-12- 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I have no idea when a C-47 will be released. Still have 2 planes to do first

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Whirlwind
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posted 03-12- 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a cargo ship that I cranked out today. Just needs a decent texture.

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Razer
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posted 03-13- 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
razor747 and I have a working C47 but the fuse needs to change. I have to many things going on right now to start on a c47 model.

I still need to redo the Ki-61 and Razor747 has the F4F to work on. And we both have the P-39 to work on.

If i get some free time i may crank out a C47


Razer

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MrBlob
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posted 03-13- 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrBlob   Click Here to Email MrBlob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I am going to wait until am am any "good2 at OPlane before i do this but i was going to make a Me 323 d-1 Giant which was a large 6 engined glider used by the germans.

However if someone else wanted to start this?

How about a Ju52? If someone took the C-47 this would be easy to do....

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Whirlwind
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posted 03-13- 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MrBlob:

I have an FSD (FST plane) Ju52 that might be a good starter. Say, if you wanted to give it a go, I could email it to you.

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dauntless851
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posted 03-13- 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dauntless851   Click Here to Email dauntless851     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whirlwind. When you have a chance, could you explain how to bring an FST plane over to SDOE?
I have a printout of how to do a ground object, but haven't seen how to make them flyable.
I've just been loading some FST shapes into AC3D and looking at them and cutting away pieces. Just for fun. Some of those shapes are pretty decent for being a couple of years old. You haven't seen the FST He-219 yet have you? I know someone mentioned it, but I haven't come across it yet.

Thanks.

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Whirlwind
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posted 03-13- 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well here is the steps I use.

1) Rotate the plane about a bit, in wireframe, and look for good places to cut the plane up in to the following key parts:

Inner wing
Outer wing
engine(s)
Tail
Tail Surfaces (not control surfaces)
Gear (if present)

2) Single side the plane, optimize vertices and faces, and then double side the single sided parts.

3) 'Cut the selected object' on plane into the above parts, checking to make sure that I cut only the faces I want.

4) Move each piece to 0,0,0 - optimize verticies and surfaces again, just in case, and export each piece into different .lod files. Make sure you name them something you recognize.

5) Load up OPS, pick a victim plane, and 'save as' it into the new plane's directory with the new plane's name.

6) Import and position each part to satisfaction.

7) Decide which of the original parts you aren't going to use and delete them.

8) Adjust the plane parameters (airArea, engHP, etc) to resemble the target plane.

9) Copy the original plane's loadout.ppf into the new plane's directory.

10) Edit the loadout.ppf file to match new the plane, ie change the name, delete deleted gun references....

11) Test fly that puppy.

12) Mix between adjusting the model, FM, DM, weapons/loadout, and texture adjustments as desired.

13) Gasp for air when it finally looks like a SDOE plane.

Notes:
- Save and backup often. I had to start over numerous times after a stupid mistake.
- Don't do it all in one sitting. Goof off some.
- Make sure you have good 3-views and data for the plane
- Don't worry about control surface deflections if you don't have the data, find the data and change it later.
- Use the current lods for level 2 lods as you will be making detail enhancements to the model, and use the rest of the orgininal .lod files to fill out the rest of the lod levels.
- People love new planes, just don't stop at a single beta release, periodically update it.
- CTD's on your first flight are common. Just check to see if the plane references models that are no longer there. More often than not, deleting the reference doesn't hurt anything.
- If your plane has a seperat .sm file for the cockpit, initially, change the name and path of the cockpit to match the plane you currently are working on or any changes done to it will affect the original plane's cockpit - OPS saves every .sm that it opens on a save. More to the point the external cockpit file IS the original cockpit file.

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dauntless851
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posted 03-13- 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dauntless851   Click Here to Email dauntless851     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Whirlwind.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-13- 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

A Ju 52 Would rock.

If no one else takes it can you send it to me so I can look at it?

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Whirlwind
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posted 03-14- 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why doesn't Spanky the Mad Dog and MrBlob do one together? I'm swamped. I'll post the file on my page on Weds (update night... the SM.79 is in shambles - I restarted it).

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