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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-02- 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

I have heard no one talk about this and asked about it online and no one knew about it.

Its a dogfight mission maker. Not really indepth but when you just want to fly online you just plug in what you want and hit go and it spits out a mission.

Its insanely fast. Like 5 seconds from start up to shut down with a mission ready to send to everyone.

pretty damn cool.

pulled right off his page

"This utility creates Dog Fight missions.
In the mission you can choose your favorite plane or use default or random selected plane.

Plane options, number of planes and Locality of fighting are always dynamically generated."

Heres a pic

heres the site
http://mujweb.cz/zabava/tomua/

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BULLET
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posted 03-02- 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BULLET   Click Here to Email BULLET     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOW THATS COOL!!!!! have you used it yet.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-02- 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Yep i have played with it. Its really fast which makes it great for online.

We may have to contact the author and ask him to check it out though cause it was giving me illegal ops today

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STef
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posted 03-02- 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for STef   Click Here to Email STef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So noone ever check the doynload section of this forum, right?
It has been there for a while now.

Spanky, would you mind writing a review of it for The Gazette's next issue?

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LLv34_Camouflage
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posted 03-02- 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LLv34_Camouflage   Click Here to Email LLv34_Camouflage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds cool!

What I really have missed is a mission creator that would make a few waypoints for each team so that the AI pilots would fight. I find it a pain in the butt to edit my existing missions to change the amounts and types of planes.

Also, there should be a few more options, for example:

-amount of planes on both sides
-weather
- start altitude for both teams (or checkbox for takeoff)

Maybe we could email the creator, Tomya, and ask him to add some useful features to it?

Camo

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-02- 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

STef like a review review with a score and pros and cons? or just a little artical?


Camo yeah for sure he just came by one day and dropped this off and I haven't seen him since.

Lets figure out a resonable request and write him.

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STef
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posted 03-02- 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for STef   Click Here to Email STef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a review with pros and cons. Something professional.
If you don't have time to write for March issue, then it will be in the next one... :p

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Jerry
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posted 03-02- 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've used the DMC a lot. It needs a readme to explain how to add new planes but once you've figured it out the plane selection is limitless. Occasionally it places the wrong plane into the mission but a simple change in the mission editor fixes that.

With all the new planes coming out I would say this is a must utility if you want to pair up some unique combinations (Zero vs. ME 109 anyone?) or get the new planes into combat quick.

You have to choose planes from different countries with DMC. If this can be tweaked I think a F4U vs. P-51 dogfight would be awesome once we get the Corsair's FM accurate.

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Sun Tzu
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posted 03-02- 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sun Tzu   Click Here to Email Sun Tzu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am download now. Thanks/

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http://nosuntzu.homestead.com/index.html


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Whirlwind
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posted 03-02- 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that could make doing campaigns a bit easier, add the planes, ect. I never knew it existed. Think about how easy it will be to do test missions...

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Tailslide
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posted 03-02- 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Spin made some kind of mission creator too.. it would automatically do the waypoints, place sirens, etc around the bases. An option to place the open hangars and planes on carriers would be cool too.

TS

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Confusion
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posted 03-02- 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Confusion   Click Here to Email Confusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always liked Spins prog...maybe its not the prog but as long as Spin flys using it I'll live on in the briefs hehe.

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ReaperMan
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posted 03-02- 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReaperMan   Click Here to Email ReaperMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've used DMC. I e-mailed the creator to see if he could add the Island terrain and maybe an option to add new terrains the same way planes are added. With the terrains it would be (TerrainName, TerrainID, Length, Width). Where can I get Spin's app?

-=TheReaper=-

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rkdodge
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posted 03-03- 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rkdodge   Click Here to Email rkdodge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jerry (or anyone else who knows)- since you've figured out how to add new planes, would you mind posting a readme?

Thanks

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Jerry
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posted 03-03- 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll work on it this weekend unless someone beats me to it.

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Jerry
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posted 03-04- 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go rk:

ADDING A NEW PLANE TO THE DYNAMIC MISSION CREATOR (DMC)

Click on Edit Plane.

Choose a Country

Name the plane – this will be the name that will show in the DMC selection menu, like “Corsair”.

ID the plane – this should be the name of the media/aircraft folder for the plane or the official par file name if there is no folder, like “f4u1”

Enter maximum speed in km/h. DMC will automatically convert to mph in the next box. You can adjust speed accordingly but the maximum km/h DMC will allow is 950 (586 mph)

Click Add

Click OK

To create a mission with your new plane go out of DMC and then reopen it. If you don’t it sometimes selects the wrong planes

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Spyder
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posted 03-04- 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone asked me if I would do a mission creator while I was online today. From what I can see of the screenshot it looks like it's been covered ok, what's missing?
I haven't tried it yet but it looks good.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 03-04- 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Spyder. I think what we want is somthing with more depth. This program is esentialy just a dogfight mission creator. Great for making a mission with a coulp different terrains so you can fly online and everyone has the planes they like but thats about it.

They want somthing that will give them some campain type thing.

At least thats what I think they want.

Kinda like the mission packs that people put out but somewhat made on the fly.

Am I thinking right people?

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spin
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posted 03-04- 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the dogfight creator - it's a nice random quick mission generator.

I made my mission creator 6 months ago and never released it. It was a little complicated and sometimes caused crashes (planes would spawn at the edge of mountains etc.) But it had some neat features:

  • Up to 16 planes
  • Bombing missions or simple dogfights
  • Random target selection
  • Object placement - I even started to try to create a ground /naval attack version but I never finished it
  • Primitive online scoring system - it worked but not 100% reliable (Everyone who played got their names in the brief - Aces were awarded to players with 5 or more kills in a row without a death). The problem was a host couldn't join other missions without screwing it up - or getting rid of the file that tracked multiplayer scores.
  • Start from airfield or air (random)
  • Squadrons were quasi-historically accurate
  • Fuel levels were set to Hawker's way, it would have been cool to determine total mission distance and set fuel levels accordingly - but I didn't want to figure out how (measure distance in feet, get fuel consumption, and add a 15% overage - ok so somebody send me fuel consumption rates and I'll do it).
  • It is possible to pick a squad or let it be random
  • Weather, date, attacking side and terrain were either random or selectable.
  • Loadouts were generally consistent with the mission nature but changed to utilize the different ones available.
  • An online campaign mode was available that used the scoring system but didn't adjust resources or site damages.

If you guys want it I'll update it for the new planes, start using it again and send it to a couple of people to look at (please volunteer). I use it all the time now when I want to create a mission. It also didn't have a very good interface - I used Excel to set it up because I have no idea how to program in anything else.

Despite the features above I always wanted to do the following:


  • Create an offline campaign mode tracking mission successes, adjust resources and damages etc. - I started this but lost interest about the time Pete shut down his board - hmmm.
  • Improve the interface - ie make it simple. Better yet get it out of Excel and into a real program (I think it's too complicated for a simple switch over - Spyder are you interested in looking at it?)
  • Improve waypoint generation - sometimes they were just plane goofy
  • It took too long to generate a mission (about 30 seconds)
  • Improve the mission brief descriptions, they were a bit repetitive
  • A couple of people complained about the way the missions worked / ctd (now and then) so I stopped using it online. If I could figure out why that would be nice. I now create a mission and open it in the editor, fix any goofy items (waypoints mostly) and then save it (the editor saves it as a properly formated text file - which usually fixes any bad mission problems).

The problem with it was that I generated way too many missions. If I bring it out of the dustballs, I would want people to have a close look at the multiplayer folder (ie get rid of all the missions you don't use - I dump them into another folder). You want less than 200 missions in there - you will suffer from fewer crashes if you drop the folder under 100 (the fewer the better).

By the way on the multiplayer mission pack, I have stopped using it because I still get desktops - It needs to be smaller - so maybe I'll look at it again soon when new missions for the multitude of planes now available start showing up.

Oops - sorry about my novel above - hope you enjoyed it.

Spin

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Spyder
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posted 03-04- 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh good post Spin.
I wasn't aware of your excel mission creator till I saw Tails comments about it.
Tell me, how did you get the output of excel to write the mis file in the correct formatting? I never use excel or the like but I do have it.
Actually I wouldn't mind a redesigned mission editor of the one we use now with simple things added such as being able to open from the fs folder straight away (mine starts in 'my documents') and maybe a key to center on the selected object/plane when zooming in and out.
If I knew how to load in the map I would start a new one around that design.
Still, I'll give the mission creator some thought.

cheers

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spin
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posted 03-04- 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The excel file is a series of sheets for airplane, squadron, target, and other info that feeds into a sheet formated to be like a typical mission text file. I have a macro that dumps that sheet into a text file and gives it a mis extension.

ta da new mission.

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