posted 02-29- 06:40 PM            

First off, take a look around here and tell me what you see. What, 300 or so members. Yes, that is what I would call a pretty much 'dead' community too. But, if you actually open your eyes, this is one of the most, if not the most alive communities for ANY flightsim. If it wasn't for these few 'blind' people as you call them, SDOE would have been long forgotten a long time ago. But, some people are keeping this sim alive.

A statement like "who cares" is a direct attack to them. Maybe you dont care, but obviously some people do care. Enough to have a contest and bust their asses to make new planes, terrains and vehicles.

Hey, I'm an EAW player too...infact, next to MiG Alley, thats all I play. I can't get enough EAW. Why am I here? Because SDOE offers something for me. It allows me to paint aircraft and do other shit that I cannot do with other flightsims. EAW is 8 bit palletized shit with repeating textures on both sides. Look at some of the user made crap for it, and then look at some of my work or yardstick's work (if i miss anyone else, i apologize). But I still play EAW. I haven't flown SDOE since last July, except to test aircraft. Heck, these folks are up to Plane Pack 5.3, for you to say to them 'who cares', is a direct slap in the face.

Every sim has its faults. Where is EAW's F4U Corsiar? Are you ever gonna see an F4U in EAW? I doubt it. How come all the aircraft stall the same way everytime? Why can a Bf-110 with a single engine out run a P51? See what I mean? EAW isn't the holy grail either, though its far closer than SDOE in most people's opinions.

SDOE is a tinkering man's sim, and there are a lot of tinkerers in here keeping this thing alive. So, for a USENET personality like yourself to slam them, is pretty tasteless and quite frankly, makes you look like an ass. The fact that you come in here with your flamethrower is even worse, for you know that flame posts always are the most liveliest.

So next time, before you open your toilet bowl, please take a second to consider that some people do give a shit about the Plane Pack, and less about your moronic rants about crap from usenet. I'm sure you won't, but its worth a try. But, then again, I'm sure you've already grown tired of pissing people off in here. Me, I'm not pissed at you, I could care less. I guess we need flames every now and then to keep us happy.

posted 02-29- 07:26 PM               

What amazes me most is how people like Scharmers try to keep up the crazy notion that SDOE died and went away. Or even crazier still, that we are all here because we all are in love with MH - like I spend hundreds of hours flying and building planes to please him or even funnier, to ignore the temptation of the world's best flight sim that ever was, is, or will ever be: EAW.

I know many of you guys like EAW, and that's cool - it's great and stuff. But I hate it and think it sucks. I tried to like it so hard.. sorry. But the fact that some people reguard EAW as their most prize posession does not upset me in the least bit. I am not at all frightened that people might like EAW better than SDOE. To quote Scharmers, "Who cares?"

Frankly, I am quite happy with our small group - quality over quantity. It's nice to go on-line and know almost every single person each night. This community truley kicks ass. I don't know how I'd feel sharing SDOE with the cruel world LOL

It's my SDOE Scharmers, you can't have it. F-off. I have it here on a CD and I can fly all I want, like it or not you will never stop me. Oh yes, I will enjoy it very much too - every second! Take that!

(Keep up this talk and he will mealt, he is only kept alive by negative-SDOE energy)

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posted 02-29- 08:35 PM               

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posted 02-29- 09:25 PM               

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posted 02-29- 09:43 PM               

Cotton. There might be all those planes and thats all cool if you like that sim. BUT they look like crap. I just looked at screen shots and they are horrible. I know that can't be helped because they are ported.

But why port? it seems like thats all the EAW guys do. Why not make new models?

We have had plenty of chances to do just the same but we don't accept a low quality model like that. Hopefully someone will get on some new ones.

posted 02-29- 10:19 PM            

You have to realise that the screenshots you saw are very early efforts. The new models were only ported 9 or 10 days ago and only released publicly a day or two ago. You see that the new models had to be skinned from scratch, without the benefit of any templates. They will improve in quality and detail. EAW 3Dz files are unfortunatly unreadable (as of yet, work is being done) so it is not yet possible to create models for EAW from scratch (this is one of the ultimate goals of the newly formed EAWcodegroup). All F/M, gun/balistic/damage and textures have been made modifiable so far. These new 3D models are ported from PAW. Surprisingly they are to the correct scale and detail of the EAW 3D models, and were in a similar but not identical format. PAW used smaller textures on the planes than is now possible ounce inside EAW. Many problems are being surmounted everyday with them. They are every bit as good as the EAW models except for transparency ie. canopies (which is also being worked on).
Also regarding terrain for EAW there are many totally original sets. Many more than the single CFS port that was referred to. Terrains include Hoover's or Pretzel's desert ones a new "Greece/Italy" being done by Hoover, several new Pacific ones are being done of course, including the one done by C Lumpkin. There are also acouple of excellent winter and autumn terrains available. With the new automatic terrain switcher STAB1.2a and the "season sets" the seasons actually change as the year goes by during campaign play. Aircraft camoflage changes aswell.

Joseph Cotton

Here's a link to an unfinished FW190 Tropical skin that better represents the new skins of EAW (of which number close to 500 ). It may not be a 1000+ poly model but there are swarms of them. hehe, Lemonade anyone? http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/fr/fritigern/Fw190Trop.jpg

posted 02-29- 10:41 PM               

"The Gods made Heavy Metal, and it's never gonna die" -Manowar

I feel the same way about Fighter Squadron.
That Scharmer's guy is just a poser.

posted 02-29- 10:44 PM               

EAW is a great game. I still have it on my hard drive, although I do confess I haven't played it very much in awhile. Still, I go by the EAW forum at the Combat Sim site almost daily. Always have alot of "babe" pics to look at. Is there another main site for EAW, or do EAW guys just use the Combat sim site?

EAW is synonomis with alot of planes in the air. Thats a great thing too.

Has all the work being done on it allowed more people to be online? Last time I flew it seemed most missions had 4 to 6 guys flying only. Has that been increased?

I thought the Pacific planes were being moved from PAW. Is that right? Thats a pretty old game. What are they using for FM, and DM?

EAW has a great community. It's a testament to them that they can keep that sim viable as long as they have. It's one of the best.

Just like SDOE.

posted 03-01- 12:12 AM            

Combatsim does infact have the major EAW board (unless they're keeping one secret from me ). There are several less populated boards around aswell though. The Combatsim board isn't that old and just had it's 20K post, posted by yours truly about two weeks ago.

Four to eight fliers are what most online games are, co-op, free for all, teams, with and with out AI etc.

Hope this helps,
Joseph Cotton

posted 03-01- 07:33 AM               

Are there any crazy guys creating WWI stuff in EAW ?
The FW is very good !

Thanks in advance.

posted 03-01- 10:39 AM               

Hit bubbles?

Are you telling me that it uses bounding boxes? As far as I knew SDOE uses poly hit. Wa hit bubbles. Thats gotta be realistic

posted 03-01- 12:57 PM            

Hope this answers your Q's
Joseph Cotton

posted 03-01- 01:04 PM               

I want to say setup something like the SDOE Hitler hunt or harbour strike missions, or that one where you fly down the valley with flak placements along the ridges. With the higher number of bombers available it would make for some great missions if you could actually edit the mission not just generate it.

TS

posted 03-01- 05:36 PM            

Joseph Cotton

I forgot to mention, try running it at 1280 by 1024, it's a world of difference

posted 03-01- 10:12 PM               

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posted 03-01- 10:24 PM               

Ours

Actually those skins posted at the link you gave are definatley alot better than I thought they'd be.

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