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Yardstick Pilot	posted 02-19- 05:28 PM Here are the only ones I have found so far: The Pilot point of view in the PP5.3 Me262 is way off to the left. Consequently the sight is not aligned with the point of view and the cannon rounds fall well to the left off target. Apart from being a Manchester the front turret on the Lanc does not rotate only the guns do. Found another one: The Fw190A-4 is missing a loadout file so is defaulting to the Fw190A. Any mission which uses the Fw190A-4 as a plane will default to the first plane in your aircraft folder (for me the SE5a - bit of a miss match here!) ------------- Yardstick painted this [This message has been edited by Yardstick (edited 02-20-2000).] IP: Logged
Nat Pilot	posted 02-19- 05:48 PM cc, was about to mention that one myself IP: Logged
Snake Pilot	posted 02-19- 06:40 PM when you shoot the wings of the Manchester you can still take off. That is the wings beyond the engines. Is that able to happen or what? Snake [This message has been edited by Snake (edited 02-19-2000).] IP: Logged
STef Pilot	posted 02-19- 06:42 PM The Manchester wasn't supposed to be there. It's still in beta and seems to suffer from the same bugs than the B17 in previous versions. ------------------ P/O STef Editor http://stephan.bondier.free.fr/gazette.html IP: Logged
ReaperMan Pilot	posted 02-19- 06:44 PM Another issue with the 262, when I open the canopy it is not visible from the inside. I know it's like this when it's closed too, but mine completely disappears if I have it open and look at it from the left side of the plane. Actually, the whole thing disappears only if I am looking at the plane from an outside view (F2) from the left. This isn't a bug, but... One thing I think really adds to a plane is cockpit reflections or just something that makes it look like the cockpit glass is really there. With the P-51 and it's bubble top, for example, from the inside it appears as if there is no cockpit glass, so it's really no different from flying one of the others with the canopy open. The 262 is like this as well. Some cockpit reflections or smudges on the glass, or anything of the sort would really make it more immersive. -=TheReaper=- [This message has been edited by ReaperMan (edited 02-19-2000).] IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 02-19- 06:46 PM The FW180 A8 bounces on the runway until you start to roll. oops...make that a 190. The 180 doesn't bounce at all [This message has been edited by Jerry (edited 02-19-2000).] IP: Logged
Jetlag Pilot	posted 02-19- 07:02 PM One thing I noticed about the A8 is that there is prolonged side-to-side movement after rudder usage which makes lining up on a target rather interesting. ------------------ Jagdverband 44 IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 02-19- 07:13 PM More about the lanc, although I'm sure this has to do with the turret fix and not 5.3 directly. Has anyone noticed that when you turn the front turret to the extreme right or left, when viewing from the outside there appears to be no 'back' to the 'ball'? I'm no Lancaster expert, so I can't describe the problem much better, but I do smell skunk. Thanks, Werner ------------------ DOWNLOADS+PILOT ROSTER+FAN SITE INNOVATION=B.C.A.T.P. Visit Today! IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 02-19- 07:25 PM Actually I just was toying with OpenPlane (OPS to be exact) when I made it. I think it is based of a PP3.0 Lancaster - the plane pack where the bombers handled like, er, bombers for the most part (88 was a brick). I don't recall ever getting a skin to work with it either. IP: Logged
ReaperMan Pilot	posted 02-19- 08:02 PM Hey everybody, Werner esp.! This is _NOT_ the Lanc! Seems the real Lanc (with the fixed turret; that's fixed as in working, not as in "non-mobile" ) was accidentally replaced with this Manchester beta that Whirlwind was working on. Will the real Lancaster please step forward? As soon as Razer has the right file it's a quick fix. -=TheReaper=- IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 02-19- 08:33 PM Spanky here... Well it doesn't sound too bad to far. The FW190 always seemed to bounce. its wacky but it never bugged me. IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 02-19- 08:38 PM Actually ReaperMan, I just discovered that I downloaded 5.3 but forgot to install it! (My father always said do 1 thing at a time and do it well....) This means that the non 5.3 turret fix, which is likely what will be added as a 5.3 patch, is what has the problem/issue. Thanks, Werner ------------------ DOWNLOADS+PILOT ROSTER+FAN SITE INNOVATION=B.C.A.T.P. Visit Today! IP: Logged
Rattler Pilot	posted 02-19- 08:48 PM Jerry Alot of the Luftwaffe aircraft have the same situation you describe. Just tap your the brake once to release the parking brake, it seems to be the end cause of the issue. Rattler IP: Logged
kopper JAG	posted 02-20- 01:06 AM When I shipped the lanc.sm to Razer I forgot to do an outside view. Such a dumb mistake. That is how we ended up with Whirlwinds Manchester. He sent it to me awhile back. I shipped the correct lanc.sm to Razer tonight. Didn't notice if it was only the guns that move or not. Either way we have the desired effect. ------------------ Kopper Fortunae Nihil (Nothing to Chance) OPPs Making SDOE a Dangerous place. One plane at a time. IP: Logged
bjorn Pilot	posted 02-20- 04:21 AM The 262 pilot looks really funny when he bails out. Try it. _ /Bjorn. IP: Logged
Nat Pilot	posted 02-20- 05:01 AM More bug reports: FW190's As with the Beta version the map views in all FW190 series are off set, especially when zooming in (inflight map.. A4, A8, D9 and I think the A) Same a/c - Rear view behind pilot is off set to the left (or pilots right)had alot of times that I couldn't see where I was on the mag because I was off view. (this seems fine in the A) Thats all I've found so far guys IP: Logged
silverfox Pilot	posted 02-20- 07:07 AM The 38 dont work for me in pp5.3. What am I doing wrong? IP: Logged
STef Pilot	posted 02-20- 09:33 AM Got one big bug. I set up a small battle with 3 Spit Ia and 4 Bf109E4. When one of the planes fall into water from a relatively high position (game starts at 7500 ft), the water effect is completely out of range. The water splash is too big. Watch out: gosh... edited 6 times to get it working... ------------------ P/O STef Editor http://stephan.bondier.free.fr/gazette.html [This message has been edited by STef (edited 02-20-2000).] [This message has been edited by STef (edited 02-20-2000).] [This message has been edited by STef (edited 02-20-2000).] [This message has been edited by STef (edited 02-20-2000).] [This message has been edited by STef (edited 02-20-2000).] IP: Logged
bjorn Pilot	posted 02-20- 10:20 AM While it's nice to see that the german planes no longer appear autocoordinated (look at the sideslip indicator when you turn,) the sideslip indicator of the 262 is far off to the right. It could be that the plane is trimmed with rudder, but it really doesn't look that way from an outside view. _ /Bjorn. IP: Logged
Rattler Pilot	posted 02-20- 10:27 AM Silverfox, I'd suggest checking to make sure that PAR files 14 and 15 are deleted. If that doesn't work try a completely fresh reload of the entire game. Unistall FS,then go to windows explorer to make sure you get rid of all remnents. Then Load CD,followed by Patch 150.exe,and finally PP5.3 Good Luck Rattler IP: Logged
Squeehee Cadet	posted 02-23- 10:52 PM I just installed 5.3 exactly as the directions state. I made sure all the proper things were checked (as far as I know), installed it to my SDOE directory and deleted the proper files. Nothing happened. No new planes. I can see that SOME new things were unzipped, but nothing is different when I crank things up. Am I going to have to uninstall/reinstall the entire game in order to get things to work? I sure hope not. I downloaded the planepack over the course of a beautiful Sunday afternoon which would probably have been better spent on the golf course. I got it at Combatsim.com. PLEASE don't tell me I wasted my time. Help? IP: Logged
Yardstick Pilot	posted 02-24- 03:55 AM Data12.par, data13.par, startup.ppf should all be in ...fighter squadron/media directory not the FS root directory. ------------------ Yardstick painted this IP: Logged
Squeehee Cadet	posted 02-24- 08:07 AM Thanks Yardstick, I knew I could count on a quick response. I'll give it a try after work tonight. Hey, just thought I'd let you know that you really have done some great work on those skins. I like them so much that when I die online, which is fairly quickly sometimes, it's a pleasure just to hit F5 and watch the show. It's also nice to be able to switch skins and have something new to fly each game. Sure keeps things interesting. IP: Logged
Ronin Pilot	posted 02-24- 11:39 AM Guys: I did the canopy on the 262 and I'll take a look at it when I get home tonight. The pilot was moved slightly to the left because his shoulder was sticking through the cockpit glass before. This is probably what messed up the gun site. I'll check the convergence, gun sight and pilot position. Reaperman- Wow, the canopy disappears on you!? I'll double check that but remember checking that specifically. Hmmm... I agree the relfections are nice but weren't added because there are many folks concerned about the FPS hit. Maybe we need two canopy versions. Ronin IP: Logged
Rattler Pilot	posted 02-24- 04:47 PM Ronin The glass looks fine to me when viewed from one side of the 262, but disappears totally when panned to the other side of the aircraft. Hope this helps Nice JOB btw Rattler IP: Logged
Ronin Pilot	posted 02-24- 08:44 PM ME262 Bug Update... Tonight, I pulled up the ME262 file I sent to Razer. GUN SITE Whew!! the gun site IS way off! I'll fix that and send the update to Razer. CANOPY When I'm inside the cockpit (canopy closed) the glass is completely transparent. The glass is set as a single sided poly visible as lightly shaded from the outside and transparent from the inside. This is the same condition when it's opened. However, you should still be able to see the canopy frame around the open canopy from the inside or outside. I can...can you??? I'll test the inner canopy glass as a double sided poly with very slight opaque quality from the inside. My graphics program is hosed so I can't do smudge effects and such at the moment. Ronin IP: Logged
ReaperMan Pilot	posted 02-25- 03:07 AM Ronin, Try the F2 outside view with an open canopy, and pan all the way around it. I can see the canopy from the inside when it's open, but if I switch to the external view and look at the inside of the cockpit (that is, from the left side of the plane) it disappears. I was thinking it might have something to do with LODs, but hell, what do I know? I'm running in Glide, BTW. -=TheReaper=- IP: Logged
Captain CanucK Pilot	posted 02-25- 03:46 PM I don't know if this problem is 5.3 related, but if you fire the guns of the A-36, take a look at it from an outside view.... now, the A-36 was supposed to have only 4 .50 cal's, but if you look near the exausts on both sides of the engine, you'll see muzzle flashes coming out of nowhere... kinda silly looking - I made some screenshots, but dont have anywhere to upload 'em to... anyone else getting this problem? ------------------ -Capt. CanucK 166 Bulldog Sqn, RCAC IP: Logged

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